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See this is a perfect example of why I dislike reviews and Meta... there not used and interpreted properly by mass majority of ppl



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outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
Dgc1808 said:
I predict MAG will recieve a 40/40 from famitsu... if it releases in japan... Same for Eyepet.

Nope. Neither is Japanese. FF13 will get 40/40, and GT5, and maybe The Last Guardian. Perhaps Quantum Theory for good measure. And, of course, Zelda Wii and NSMB Wii. And Super Mario Galaxy 2.

While they're at it, why don't they give 40/40 to every game that comes out of Japan?

You're still on this vendetta that they hate Western games....

 

Oh goodness.

I never said they hate Western games, they just prefer Japanese games. When Nintendogs gets a perfect score and some of the highest reviewed games in the West get in the mid-30s, you know something is up.

You could say the same about Western reviewers? Why do western games tend to get higher scores than Japanese games?

Because they're better.

Japan has a population of only 127 million while the West has a talent pool of 1 billion people. So it's only natural that a higher number of quality games are produced here.



Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
Dgc1808 said:
I predict MAG will recieve a 40/40 from famitsu... if it releases in japan... Same for Eyepet.

Nope. Neither is Japanese. FF13 will get 40/40, and GT5, and maybe The Last Guardian. Perhaps Quantum Theory for good measure. And, of course, Zelda Wii and NSMB Wii. And Super Mario Galaxy 2.

While they're at it, why don't they give 40/40 to every game that comes out of Japan?

You're still on this vendetta that they hate Western games....

 

Oh goodness.

I never said they hate Western games, they just prefer Japanese games. When Nintendogs gets a perfect score and some of the highest reviewed games in the West get in the mid-30s, you know something is up.

You could say the same about Western reviewers? Why do western games tend to get higher scores than Japanese games?

They don't. At least, not before this gen.

Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, PES, Devil May Cry, Virtua Fighter and Resident Evil can all be found in the PS2's top 20 on Metacritic. And looking at the Western games, can anybody objectively deny that the Tony Hawks, GTAs and God of Wars deserve to be on that list? I haven't played any of the Maddens, but I've never really liked American Football.

Of course I was talking this generation, and western games weren't given bad scores this generation or last.



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Bayonetta? Lordess of horrible framerate and sutters gets a perfect while Uncharted 2 gets a 37? What' are they coming to?



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Xxain said:
dsister44 said:
Kantor said:
richardhutnik said:
Kantor said:
Cross-X said:
Wow never expected Bayonetta to recieve full marks from Famitsu...

Really? Bayonetta is a better game than Tekken 6 which got 34?

More to the point, it's better than Uncharted 2, which got 37?

Hey, look, no non-Japanese game has ever gotten 40. What a shock.

When it is only a few points apart, why is it a big deal?  37 vs 40, for example.

It's the principle. 3/40 is equal to 7.5%. Tell me, is the gap between 100% and 92.5% a big one?


You know not everyone likes Uncharted. It is completely possible that Bayonetta is a better game


your rite about the 1st wrong about the second.. when to games of a different genres get different scores like UN2 37 and Bayonetta40 it doesn't mean Bayonetta > UC2.. it means Bayonetta is currently the best and most innovative action game available

His first point may be true, but those who dislike Uncharted (particularly Uncharted 2) are in a small minority. That's not the point, anyway. I used Uncharted 2 as an example, I could replace it with any number of games.

Now, Bayonetta is the best and most innovative hack and slash game available? Perhaps not the best, because there could be other 40/40 hack and slash games (there aren't, by the way). As I said earlier, a 40/40, or 10/10, or 95-100/100, means that it is a masterpiece, and it represents everything that is great about gaming. You won't want to stop, and when it ends, you will want to play it again. Five years down the line, you can still play and enjoy it. You have no significant complaints with the game, and nothing could have improved the experience in any significant way.

Looking at the videos, and the western previews, does Bayonetta look like it's in that class? For me, personally, Uncharted 2 is in that class, as are a few others.



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outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
Dgc1808 said:
I predict MAG will recieve a 40/40 from famitsu... if it releases in japan... Same for Eyepet.

Nope. Neither is Japanese. FF13 will get 40/40, and GT5, and maybe The Last Guardian. Perhaps Quantum Theory for good measure. And, of course, Zelda Wii and NSMB Wii. And Super Mario Galaxy 2.

While they're at it, why don't they give 40/40 to every game that comes out of Japan?

You're still on this vendetta that they hate Western games....

 

Oh goodness.

I never said they hate Western games, they just prefer Japanese games. When Nintendogs gets a perfect score and some of the highest reviewed games in the West get in the mid-30s, you know something is up.

You could say the same about Western reviewers? Why do western games tend to get higher scores than Japanese games?

They don't. At least, not before this gen.

Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, PES, Devil May Cry, Virtua Fighter and Resident Evil can all be found in the PS2's top 20 on Metacritic. And looking at the Western games, can anybody objectively deny that the Tony Hawks, GTAs and God of Wars deserve to be on that list? I haven't played any of the Maddens, but I've never really liked American Football.

Of course I was talking this generation, and western games weren't given bad scores this generation or last.

If we are looking at the HD consoles (everything Nintendo makes is Japanese, so the Wii has plenty of fantastic Japanese games), Japanese games this gen aren't particularly good, with a few exceptions: namely a few RPGs and Metal Gear Solid. Looking at the 13 PS3 games I would personally rate 9+ (not counting PSN), one is Japanese. The vast majority are American, actually.



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Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
Dgc1808 said:
I predict MAG will recieve a 40/40 from famitsu... if it releases in japan... Same for Eyepet.

Nope. Neither is Japanese. FF13 will get 40/40, and GT5, and maybe The Last Guardian. Perhaps Quantum Theory for good measure. And, of course, Zelda Wii and NSMB Wii. And Super Mario Galaxy 2.

While they're at it, why don't they give 40/40 to every game that comes out of Japan?

You're still on this vendetta that they hate Western games....

 

Oh goodness.

I never said they hate Western games, they just prefer Japanese games. When Nintendogs gets a perfect score and some of the highest reviewed games in the West get in the mid-30s, you know something is up.

You could say the same about Western reviewers? Why do western games tend to get higher scores than Japanese games?

They don't. At least, not before this gen.

Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, PES, Devil May Cry, Virtua Fighter and Resident Evil can all be found in the PS2's top 20 on Metacritic. And looking at the Western games, can anybody objectively deny that the Tony Hawks, GTAs and God of Wars deserve to be on that list? I haven't played any of the Maddens, but I've never really liked American Football.

Of course I was talking this generation, and western games weren't given bad scores this generation or last.

If we are looking at the HD consoles (everything Nintendo makes is Japanese, so the Wii has plenty of fantastic Japanese games), Japanese games this gen aren't particularly good, with a few exceptions: namely a few RPGs and Metal Gear Solid. Looking at the 13 PS3 games I would personally rate 9+ (not counting PSN), one is Japanese. The vast majority are American, actually.

And I'd disagree. My top 10 of this generation would consist largely of Japanese titles.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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outlawauron said:
Kantor said:
outlawauron said:

Of course I was talking this generation, and western games weren't given bad scores this generation or last.

If we are looking at the HD consoles (everything Nintendo makes is Japanese, so the Wii has plenty of fantastic Japanese games), Japanese games this gen aren't particularly good, with a few exceptions: namely a few RPGs and Metal Gear Solid. Looking at the 13 PS3 games I would personally rate 9+ (not counting PSN), one is Japanese. The vast majority are American, actually.

And I'd disagree. My top 10 of this generation would consist largely of Japanese titles.

This is my top ten for this gen:


1) Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
2) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
3) BioShock
4) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
5) LittleBigPlanet
6) Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
7) Killzone 2
8) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
9) inFamous
10) Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction

One Japanese game, one British game, one Dutch and seven American games.

Could you post yours? I'm intrigued. Remember not to include Wii games, because as I said, Japanese Wii games do tend to be the best, because Nintendo is Japanese, and their studios are based in Japan.

EDIT: Killzone 2 isn't American. Are you retarded, Kantor? >_>



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Well, while I think this is dubious (even having not played the game), if nothing else it at least confirms that it's a pretty rad game. I was worried it wouldn't stack up to well when all was said and done, and even if it doesn't warrant a perfect score they wouldn't give it to a mediocre game.



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I just wonder if it's actually as good as God Hand.