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cgkc17 on 16 October 2009

i was gonna say well maybe if other publishers got off their asses and actually marketed their games, they'd sell better..

but onyxmeth beat me to it >.



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forest-spirit on 16 October 2009

I think it's fair. What's unfair is other great titles such as Valkyrie Profile and Xenogears selling much less.



FinalEvangelion on 16 October 2009

It's capitalism. As long as they aren't breaking fair competition law, which I don't see, than they can have all the sales they want.

However, some of SE's actions such as supporting the wrong console this generation has allowed smaller devs like NIS get a better name in the jRPG world.



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RageBot on 16 October 2009

I'm actually suprised by how much Xenogears sold, it is a game with a very, very complex plot.



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outlawauron on 16 October 2009
Rei said:

FFXII got adjusted up in Europe, finally. Still too low for such a masterpiece.

And to answer the OP - Final Fantasy selling less wouldnt benefit any other games you named. If anything, it would only harm them.

I had a little help in that.



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Rei on 16 October 2009
outlawauron said:
Rei said:

FFXII got adjusted up in Europe, finally. Still too low for such a masterpiece.

And to answer the OP - Final Fantasy selling less wouldnt benefit any other games you named. If anything, it would only harm them.

I had a little help in that.


Good job. Too bad Kingdom Hearts 2 is still undertracked in both US an Europe.



twesterm on 16 October 2009
Onyxmeth said:
twesterm said:
I think SE has pretty unfairly raised the bar for JRPG's and are pretty much destroying the genre.

It's not that they are making great games anymore (or at least the FF games aren't great), it's that they have these insanely high budgets that other publishers can't match but SE can get away with because they know the FF name means several million units and a Cloud clone means another million units.

You mean other publishers like Microsoft, Namco Bandai and Konami? Those small guys that can't make big budget RPGs to match Square Enix? Let's be real here. No one else tries as hard as Square Enix does to sell an RPG (besides Nintendo), and that is why Final Fantasy is where it's at and why the only other largely successful RPG franchise to come along on consoles since the NES days is Kingdom Hearts. Square understands what RPG gamers want enough of the time, and they understand how to market it to them. No other publisher believes in their RPGs enough to market them like a large scale, multimillion selling title. They buy ad space in dying game magazines for a month or two and they get appropriate sales for doing so.

So the big dogs can hang with the big dogs?

I'm talking about studios like Atlus that make phenominal games but just cannot compete because they don't have an infinite budget that people expect from an RPG.  It's sad but true that people will buy what looks better and SE can take as long as they want to make their games look perfect and if you don't look as good as the best, you're shit.

Stupid threads like this prove that.



 

darthdevidem01 on 16 October 2009

YES FF12 adjusted up

so it sold more than FF9, the last FF of the PS1 gen

so FF isn't in decline.....TAKE THAT SORIKU!



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Lurker on 16 October 2009

It's not gonna last forever. The western world has found out about WRPGs and are buying them now.



darthdevidem01 on 16 October 2009
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
The Final Fantasy titles have actually been slowly selling less each title since FFVII. And, like everything, it depends on if you're talking about worldwide or regional sales.

If you're talking about worldwide sales, Final Fantasy might be the best seller on consoles. If you're talking about regional, a couple others probably surpass it. Stuff like Dragon Quest in Japan or recent WRPGs in America.


your on VGC which has a VERY GOOD database for sales of ALL FF game

yet you make a FACTUAL error of such massive proportions, seriously use the sites resources

FF DECLINED with FF8.....after that it never declined again. Ever. Except for when FF12 sold less than FF10.....but FF9 sold less than FF8 too....so that decline was merely because of the "end of gen, loss of interest, nex gen consoles out" feeling going round.

FFX sold more than FF8 & FF12 sold more than FF9

if anything after the decline showed by FF8, the FF franchise rose up again.



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