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KungKras on 08 October 2009

^How many memorable?



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liquidninja on 08 October 2009
Kantor said:

But they do put out products that people want, and you keep denying that this is related to the OP, when in fact it's the central idea of the OP!

That's true but I think they can do better. Way better. If their companies relied on those products then I bet they would be alot more effort put in.



ShadowSoldier on 08 October 2009
KungKras said:
^How many memorable?

Ratchet, Killzone 2, inFamous, Uncharted all seem pretty fuckin memorable



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Xxain on 08 October 2009
KungKras said:
^How many memorable?


what standards d you judge that by? KZ,LBP,Uncharted,Team ICO,J&D,R&C all seem memorable to me



Kantor on 08 October 2009
liquidninja said:
Kantor said:

Your entire OP is based on the premise that Microsoft and Sony are messing up the industry.

Even what you call Nintendo's laziness is brought on by Sony and Microsoft.

You compare the gaming industry to the music industry, while saying gaming is no good in its current form, so either:

a) Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo need to step up the first party development, or

b) There are many different brands of console, all of which can play every game, giving us a situation like the MP3 player.

To be honest, I think the industry is fine as it is. Within the next couple of quarters, all three companies will be profiting, sales for all consoles are strong, and there is a diverse and quality range of games on every platform. The last thing we need is a company like Apple having complete domination over the industry.

I don't know who's messing up the industry. I just know it's messed up. I think the fact that there is only one video game company making consoles now is a big reason it sucks now. Needless to say I'm not happy with the way things are.

I give up. You just refuse to budge from the opinion that SCE and MGS are not video game companies, just because they are not solely video game companies.

So by that logic, Creative, who only make music players (for the most part) are better than Apple at making music players, because Apple also makes computers and operating systems?



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Xxain on 08 October 2009

This thread is full of ignorance and arrogance, its kinda overwhelming to see ppl that think like this



KungKras on 08 October 2009
Xxain said:
KungKras said:
^How many memorable?


what standards d you judge that by? KZ,LBP,Uncharted,Team ICO,J&D,R&C all seem memorable to me

I mean memorable as in, something to look back at and play and enjoy generations after they were new, like if you look at the 16-bit and 8-bt era, games that you will remember even to this day. Like Street Fighter II or Super Mario World. Tetris and PAC MAN are the ultimte examples, but those are in another league.

Out of those you mentioned, I'd say maybe the ICO games. LBP, sure that's one that will be remembered. And maybe Ratchet & Clank, maybe. Killzone2 may seem cool now, but my wild guess is that it will be remembered as just another FPS that happened to have really good graphics at the time. Same with inFAMOUS, just a Sandbox game that seemed cool at the time.



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liquidninja on 08 October 2009
Kantor said:

I give up. You just refuse to budge from the opinion that SCE and MGS are not video game companies, just because they are not solely video game companies.

So by that logic, Creative, who only make music players (for the most part) are better than Apple at making music players, because Apple also makes computers and operating systems?

Sony Computer Entertainment and Microsoft Game Studios aren't their own companies. The first one's just a subsidiary and the second's only a brand name.

Creative and Apple don't make the music for those players. If they did they would still be playable on other music players. I said this once before, if video games consoles were commoditized like DVD and CD players things wouldn't look as bad.



Torillian on 08 October 2009
KungKras said:
Xxain said:
KungKras said:
^How many memorable?


what standards d you judge that by? KZ,LBP,Uncharted,Team ICO,J&D,R&C all seem memorable to me

I mean memorable as in, something to look back at and play and enjoy generations after they were new, like if you look at the 16-bit and 8-bt era, games that you will remember even to this day. Like Street Fighter II or Super Mario World. Tetris and PAC MAN are the ultimte examples, but those are in another league.

Out of those you mentioned, I'd say maybe the ICO games. LBP, sure that's one that will be remembered. And maybe Ratchet & Clank, maybe. Killzone2 may seem cool now, but my wild guess is that it will be remembered as just another FPS that happened to have really good graphics at the time. Same with inFAMOUS, just a Sandbox game that seemed cool at the time.

So what "memorable" games have Nintendo made this gen by your count?  And what in God's name are you basing "memorable" on?



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Avinash_Tyagi on 08 October 2009
Torillian said:
KungKras said:
Xxain said:
KungKras said:
^How many memorable?


what standards d you judge that by? KZ,LBP,Uncharted,Team ICO,J&D,R&C all seem memorable to me

I mean memorable as in, something to look back at and play and enjoy generations after they were new, like if you look at the 16-bit and 8-bt era, games that you will remember even to this day. Like Street Fighter II or Super Mario World. Tetris and PAC MAN are the ultimte examples, but those are in another league.

Out of those you mentioned, I'd say maybe the ICO games. LBP, sure that's one that will be remembered. And maybe Ratchet & Clank, maybe. Killzone2 may seem cool now, but my wild guess is that it will be remembered as just another FPS that happened to have really good graphics at the time. Same with inFAMOUS, just a Sandbox game that seemed cool at the time.

So what "memorable" games have Nintendo made this gen by your count?  And what in God's name are you basing "memorable" on?

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