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That man is just silly and everyone knows it. :p



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To the OP. You are missing the big picture here. He complimented nintendo and yet you still QQ.

 

Sony's Tretton: "We Can Play On A Worldwide Basis"

Basically what this means is the compatibility with Sony's HDTV, PSP, PS3, cell phone, camers etc

So, retailers can place the PS3 in both the Blu-Ray and Digital gadget sections of their stores.



theARTIST0017 said:

"In an industry that's certainly had its challenges this year, we like to say that the environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry. We have a brand that can play on a worldwide basis, young and old, male and female, where our competition tends to be relegated to either select regions or to select consumer audiences. ...We don't have unlimited money, we cater to a more mass market audience. I think we're willing to take a little bit more risk than a competitor like Nintendo is and ultimately we deliver to the masses on a worldwide basis and that's what we've done for the last 15 years." - SCEA boss Jack Tretton

 

That's what got to me. I don't care that he said Playstation is the best for the industry. That can be argued, but REALLY? Jack you must be on something because the last time I checked Nintendo is where you got a lot of your ideas from. Was dual screens not risky enough for you? Or maybe it was TILT SENSORS! I wonder.

Your thoughts.

 

Edit: Link- http://www.destructoid.com/sony-winning-is-best-for-the-industry-says-sony-151113.phtml

If Nintendo and Microsoft are only appealing to seperate, concentrated sections of the market, and Sony is appealing to the ENTIRE market - wouldn't Sony be #1 and not in 3rd place!?



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Dgc1808 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Dgc1808 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
routsounmanman said:
Sony - risk
Nintendo - innovation

And to say the Wii was a risk for Nintendo is a bit false; they didn't have much to lose. They were practially shown the way out of the industry back in the GC days.

Except you can make the argument that Nintendo took the risk of saving the gaming industry (again), or watching it collapse, like in the Atari days

It needed saving??? From what??? 

Sales were better than ever... Gaming had become a completely main stream form of entertainment. It looked less likely to die than the movie industry...

You said sales, but you didn't mention profits, profits are the lifeblood of companies, and companies like Sony and MS are bleeding money in the gaming market, notice the number of mergers going on, its a sign of a market in danger when the companies have to be massive in order to survive

Most 3rd party games are going on 2-3 platforms at the exact same time... Playstation3, Xbox360 and often PC. Nintendo's most likely making more profit than ever but they're also having their best sales ever. I don't see what they're doing for any other company on the Wii. There doesn't seem to be that many companies putting any extensive effort on the Wii when compared to PS360/PC. So I really don't see how the Wii is helping to save anything but Nintendo themselves. It' hasn't made that big of an impact on the industry in general for me to say that it "saved it".

The DS doesn't seem to be doing drastically amazing enough to say it's really boosting the industry compared to the GBA. I will say that software sales on the DS is quite impressive though.

This actually exposes a weakness in the market, most companies need games to be on multiple systems to make a profit, and are releasing a lot of sequels and franchises that they know will sell, so in fact this shows the problem with ballooning costs.  The fact is, if they lose the ability to make multiplats and cheap ports between two or more systems most of these companies will be faced with even more staggering losses, and that time will come, in fact NATAL and the PS3 Wand are a sign of that change, you won't be able to easily port between those two.  Nintendo on the other hand has found a way to appeal to the market and keep costs down, their  games sell more than the competition in most cases, and yet cost less to make.

Now the issue with third parties on the Wii is due to the third parties themselves, they not only guessed wrong at the beginning of the generation, but they also don't know how to appeal to the Wii base, so most of their games flounder, a few of the wiser companies have found success and profit on the Wii.

You kinda avoided my who point right there....



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Avinash_Tyagi said:
PS3 has zero games that sold over 10 million ,360 has only one, even combining multiplat sales you have only the games selling over 10 million on the HD twins, Halo 3, Modern warfare and GTA 4, by comparison PS2 had five 10 million sellers on its own

I'd like to point out something. How many of the Wii 10 millions sellers are 3rd party and how many of the PS2's are third party?? Last I checked the only 1st party PS2 game to hit 10Million was Gran Turismo 4 [Gran Turismo3 was close though]. Now how many of those Wii 1st party titles to sell 10 million, aren't either a long running Nintendo Franchise, or part of the "Wii" series?

The Wii isn't "saving the industry", it's really only strengthening Nintendo. Sure it's expanding the market but this is something SONY did with the PS1 and PS2 [it's arguable that the PS2 is still helping the market to expand]. This is something that the NES and arguably the SNES did...

So I really need to know how it's saving the industry because the spot light for 3rd party games seem to be on the HD systems and PC. You can say that 3rd parties are simply struggling to appeal to the Wii crowd, but 3rd parties don't have games with sales histories like Mario/Link/Pokemon etc. Also they can't make their own Wii fit rip-offs and expect to succeed. If I were to walk into a store and see a Nintendo Wii, Wii-Fit and some EA work-out game for the Wii... which would I go with???? The one made by Nintendo for their system.

EDIT: Gran Turismo 3 did hit a 10 Million. GT4 just did higher, while Gran Turismo 3 did better than GT2 which still sits at around 9.4Million. 



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It is really a very ridiculous statement.



I've read a few pages on this, and came to a conclusion:

There are those who are here just to diss on Sony, and since Trenton's comment is a very good oportunity to do it (since the Slim launch reasons to bash SOny got scarce), those guys are on fire.

There are also those who simply wanto to set fire on where there should be none.

And those who understood the meaning of the comment.

Its financial/economical. Sony takes more finacial/economical risks than Nintendo. Its a FACT. The only risk Nintendo took this gen was to change the control scheme on Wii. That was the innovation. The mass market aproach was nothing new. Look at the price. Nintendo was, will, will always be making a profit from the begining. Old tech, used more inteligently, easy to mass produce, with a extremely afordable price, in comparison with the competition. Lauch some much loved game franchises/games that use the said innovation with it to boost and you have Wii launch. Win for Nintendo. Not even them expected such success. NO ONE expected it. Want another proof that Nintendo wont risk finacialy? The last Zelda game was a GC game, and Wii was just about to launch. Why not launch as a completely Wii game and sell huge numbers? Because they didnt believe Wii would be the astounding success it was. Only after that they did a port to Wii.

People is over reacting to a comment that makes much sense, when taken from the point that was tryied to be made. People whos point that Sony doesnt even deserve to be in the game industry should re-think such statement, because if NIntendo got its way back there, there wouldnt be a gaming industry right now. Nintendo saved the gaming industry in the 80's to almost kill it in the 90's. Be thankfull that Sony got in. Competition brough us where we stand now. Nintendo innovate with Wii, but where are its games? Shovelware after shovelware, the sales, the most potent weapon fanboys use to back the Wii were declining, the price point wasnt as strong as before. Good thing Nintendo is coming out with new games (wich are new games on their old, familiar, very well known francises...no new IP, so wheres the RISK in there???).

So if you wanna take things out of contest, all righ, great chance given by Trenton. He even acknowlegde Nintendo and MS prowes and good points, spining it like only PR pros can do, but he did say it. This one was long enough, so whatever! Not coming back here with a 30 feet long pole.



@OP

Nice, remove the good things he said and keep that

am glad i read entire interview before seeing this.



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Ryusuken said:

I've read a few pages on this, and came to a conclusion:

There are those who are here just to diss on Sony, and since Trenton's comment is a very good oportunity to do it (since the Slim launch reasons to bash SOny got scarce), those guys are on fire.

There are also those who simply wanto to set fire on where there should be none.

And those who understood the meaning of the comment.

Its financial/economical. Sony takes more finacial/economical risks than Nintendo. Its a FACT. The only risk Nintendo took this gen was to change the control scheme on Wii. That was the innovation. The mass market aproach was nothing new. Look at the price. Nintendo was, will, will always be making a profit from the begining. Old tech, used more inteligently, easy to mass produce, with a extremely afordable price, in comparison with the competition. Lauch some much loved game franchises/games that use the said innovation with it to boost and you have Wii launch. Win for Nintendo. Not even them expected such success. NO ONE expected it. Want another proof that Nintendo wont risk finacialy? The last Zelda game was a GC game, and Wii was just about to launch. Why not launch as a completely Wii game and sell huge numbers? Because they didnt believe Wii would be the astounding success it was. Only after that they did a port to Wii.

People is over reacting to a comment that makes much sense, when taken from the point that was tryied to be made. People whos point that Sony doesnt even deserve to be in the game industry should re-think such statement, because if NIntendo got its way back there, there wouldnt be a gaming industry right now. Nintendo saved the gaming industry in the 80's to almost kill it in the 90's. Be thankfull that Sony got in. Competition brough us where we stand now. Nintendo innovate with Wii, but where are its games? Shovelware after shovelware, the sales, the most potent weapon fanboys use to back the Wii were declining, the price point wasnt as strong as before. Good thing Nintendo is coming out with new games (wich are new games on their old, familiar, very well known francises...no new IP, so wheres the RISK in there???).

So if you wanna take things out of contest, all righ, great chance given by Trenton. He even acknowlegde Nintendo and MS prowes and good points, spining it like only PR pros can do, but he did say it. This one was long enough, so whatever! Not coming back here with a 30 feet long pole.

Great Post

You should post more often



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Gimmick =/= risk.
The Cell B.E. & Bluray were a risk.
Making a crappy motion control with smart marketing was/is a gimmick.