getrdone said: NJ5 said: I hear you madskillz... Lair is in 1080p but it has slowdowns, so I have yet to be convinced that the PS3 can really handle 1080p properly. That could explain why most games don't use it. PS: However, I have to wonder if 1080p is such a big deal except on very big screens...   Ratchet & Clank can do 1080p at 60fps, Ninja Gaiden Sigma can do 1080p at 60fps and the same with nba 2k8, and their are more games coming out that are going to be at 1080p and 60fps

An unreleased game, a remake from the Xbox, and a game which has terrible graphics... Not a great 1080p lineup there ;)

EDIT - oops, I thought you were talking about PS3's basketball launch title, don't know about 2k8, so sorry for that.

If Ratchet and Clank really can pull it off without slowdowns, then I'll gladly accept that.

 

NJ5 said: getrdone said: NJ5 said: I hear you madskillz... Lair is in 1080p but it has slowdowns, so I have yet to be convinced that the PS3 can really handle 1080p properly. That could explain why most games don't use it. PS: However, I have to wonder if 1080p is such a big deal except on very big screens...   Ratchet & Clank can do 1080p at 60fps, Ninja Gaiden Sigma can do 1080p at 60fps and the same with nba 2k8, and their are more games coming out that are going to be at 1080p and 60fps An unreleased game, a remake from the Xbox, and a game which has terrible graphics... Not a great 1080p lineup there ;) EDIT - oops, I thought you were talking about PS3's basketball launch title, don't know about 2k8, so sorry for that. If Ratchet and Clank really can pull it off without slowdowns, then I'll gladly accept that.

I can see your point and agree with the ninja gaiden sigma. I played the demo of Ratchet and Clank and i noticed no framerate problems so i feel very strong that this game will pull it off. I was talking about 2k8 and NBA 08 sucks in my opinion.

makingmusic476 said: GTHD and GT5 are 1080p, if I'm not mistaken.

 

Many of the games Sony claims are 1080P (including the above I believe) are actually rendered 960X1080. Which is only a slightly more demanding resolution than 1280X720.

 

Then they can conveniently double the horizontal resolution with scaling. Since real 1080P is 1920X1080. Two times 960=1920. Since it's a direct doubling, the scaling will look a lot better. Basically a bit of a trick.

 

R&C isn't even claimed to be 720P btw, so I'm not sure where you get that. Actually, it's not even 720P. It has slight black bars at the top and bottom (since most TV's overscan, not visible) and is actually 704P. 

konnichiwa said: OMG this sucks!!!!! NO ONE WILL BUY THIS! IF THEY ARE NOT 1080i I will not buy a PS3!! .... Meh I really never cared about this because I don't have HD television.

 Just like 200% of real gamers.

Snesboy said: konnichiwa said: OMG this sucks!!!!! NO ONE WILL BUY THIS! IF THEY ARE NOT 1080i I will not buy a PS3!! .... Meh I really never cared about this because I don't have HD television. Just like 200% of real gamers.

...so people like me are not real gamers? 

 

There's nothing wrong with having a HDTV.... 

 

The only people who are going to notice 1080I or 1080p or 720P are mostly going to be nitpicky perfectionist early adopters and people who like to show off.

So they likely already have the PS3. I can't see the average gamer caring much if at all.

epsilon72 said: Snesboy said: konnichiwa said: OMG this sucks!!!!! NO ONE WILL BUY THIS! IF THEY ARE NOT 1080i I will not buy a PS3!! .... Meh I really never cared about this because I don't have HD television. Just like 200% of real gamers. ...so people like me are not real gamers? There's nothing wrong with having a HDTV....

Its just p.. err TV envy mate. On subject, I have switched between 720p and 1080i lots of times and can't tell a difference. 1080p will have to wait a year too much $. As to playing a ps3, I found a working display once. Swear to god either people turn off the ps3s at stores or they are frozen. I like the fact that the black doesn't consume everything. Hard to explain but I always have to turn up the brightness on 360 games.

well it beats the two 360 games that run at 1080p.

Link: http://www.n4g.com/News-72564.aspx

A few I can think off my head:
Ninja Gaiden Sigma - 1080p/60FPS
Gran Turismo HD - 1080p/60FPS
The Darkness - 1080p/60FPS
Lair - 1080p/30FPS
Warhawk - 720p/60FPS

Future:
MGS4 - 1080p/60FPS
Ratchet - 720p/60FPS (Resistance uses the first generation of the engine and runs at 720p/30FPS, they optimized some parts of the engine for Ratchet but not all)

This means the PS3 can do it. And soon more games will have it but for now developers are still learning the PS3.

Anyway, a console, unlike a PC, is normally an investment for 6-8 years and PlayStation has always been a surprising scalable system. Who would believe God of War 2 was possible to do on the PS2 when it come out? I wouldn't.

PS: I rather have 60FPS and 720p than 30FPS 1080p. 30FPS, especially on a shooter, is stressful on my eyes.

NJ5 said: getrdone said: NJ5 said: I hear you madskillz... Lair is in 1080p but it has slowdowns, so I have yet to be convinced that the PS3 can really handle 1080p properly. That could explain why most games don't use it. PS: However, I have to wonder if 1080p is such a big deal except on very big screens...   Ratchet & Clank can do 1080p at 60fps, Ninja Gaiden Sigma can do 1080p at 60fps and the same with nba 2k8, and their are more games coming out that are going to be at 1080p and 60fps An unreleased game, a remake from the Xbox, and a game which has terrible graphics... Not a great 1080p lineup there ;) If Ratchet and Clank really can pull it off without slowdowns, then I'll gladly accept that.

it doesnt matter if Sigma is a Xbox remake; we are talking from a techinical standpoint.

Sigma has great visuals, and if memory serves, no slow downs so it runs at a constant 60 fps at 1080p.
so i think its proof that a ps3 CAN handle 1080p properly, it just depends on how good the developers are.