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ZOE-2ndrunner said:
Dont get me wrong I played the sh!t out of Halo 3 im a Halo fan, but im not a STUPID Halo fan. ODST is not good, it sucks. Those who dont have it shouln't buy it, instead buy Forza 3 or something else thats actually worth buying.

Have you played ODST? What's your gamertag? What did you not like about it? Because - if you like Halo 3, you would have noticed the number of improvements in ODST. Or - are you just trolling?

And not well-educated? Enlighten the class as to why you are more educated than the pro-360 camp that's sitting on top of a 7M console lead ATM. And mind you - the 360 isn't being outsold by 100K anymore either.



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madskillz said:
ZOE-2ndrunner said:
Dont get me wrong I played the sh!t out of Halo 3 im a Halo fan, but im not a STUPID Halo fan. ODST is not good, it sucks. Those who dont have it shouln't buy it, instead buy Forza 3 or something else thats actually worth buying.

Have you played ODST? What's your gamertag? What did you not like about it? Because - if you like Halo 3, you would have noticed the number of improvements in ODST. Or - are you just trolling?

And not well-educated? Enlighten the class as to why you are more educated than the pro-360 camp that's sitting on top of a 7M console lead ATM. And mind you - the 360 isn't being outsold by 100K anymore either.

Gotta love XBL...



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
^^
They just solved big heat problems, maybe it's still too early for a XB360 Slim. Consider that "Fat" xB360 is already considerably smaller than Fat PS3, so making a Slim that looks significantly slimmer than the original may be quite more difficult even if there aren't heat problems anymore.

The xbox 360 is still very faulty, but that being said, that massive power brick outside the 360? if sony takes its power supply outside, it will be much smaller. The issue with the ps3 is the blu-ray drive, but you can expect that to go down too.

there will be a new PS3 before there is a new xbox360. Microsoft still hasn't even solved the issues with its current hardware. Imagine the failure rate of a new xbox 360 shrunk down? It would be much worse.

Microsoft is an amazing software producer, but their hardware tends to be on the low end. Love the 360 btw.



About the OP, I don't understand why people keep saying that Microsoft is a master at marketing. I'll enumerate why I think they don't know a damn about marketing.
1. Go Play!
2. Seinfeld.
3. I'm a PC. Apple envy? Witty comeback? Just say no.
4. Vista.
5. Boink, I mean Bing or Live or MSN Live. Gah, too many failed domains to remember.
6. Zune.

I must admit they did a commendable success of etching halo into the minds of FPS fans in the US, but c'mon if that's the only qualification I don't know what weed you were smoking.



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The OP is a very optimistic MS fan friendly prediction, but odds remain in favor of the hardware gap between the PS3 and Xbox shrinking by 2011.

Software releases are a wash at best; neither platform is particularly dominating over the other and for every "OMG Game Changing" soft title you can list for one platform, the other has an answer. It's more of an issue of personal tastes in soft libraries at this point.

Two things that could potentially be game changers are motion controls, which are a priority to different consumers than most of the current PS3/Xbox consumers, and continued price reductions to open up the market to lower entry price demographics.

As far as price reductions go, I'm not even going to throw in the overused "value" argument; the price is also a wash, with a nod going to MS for offering the budget Arcade model, even if it is not their primary seller.

Any price drops at this point, would simply be countered by the other. The only other way to push the price angle to the consumer is through added perceived value, which has less of an effect as hardware ages and becomes cheaper.

As for Natal, I still fail to see why people continue to pin their hopes on it as a sure thing "because it's Microsoft" or "because Microsoft knows how to market!" The one thing that will insure it's success will be how well the average non-gamer consumer receives the idea. A large part of that will have to do with how well the execution matches whatever hype MS is will to push through their marketing efforts. Same goes for SCE's new motion control system. Ultimately it boils down to how good the support is, and as of right now, nobody has a clear picture of what that will be by 2011.



360 at 99$ price seems be quite possible for me. MS is making good money on Live, accessories and SW sales for this price not to hurt them. Not to mention that 360 @ 99$ will completely destroy competition (that is, PS3).



MDMAniac said:
360 at 99$ price seems be quite possible for me. MS is making good money on Live, accessories and SW sales for this price not to hurt them. Not to mention that 360 @ 99$ will completely destroy competition (that is, PS3).

Maybe, but I see Arcade settling at $179, then to $149 in a couple of years...maybe even an arcade with a built-in 4GB drive space to handle Natal. 



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dcIKeeL said:
kitler53 said:

just a couple things.

1. halo reach, fable III, GeoW 3,...the release of Halo ODST should be enough proof that new releases of old franchises don't push hardware.

2. 32.26M - 24.79M = 7.47M lead for the 360 which is not 8+

natal is the only wild card but the 360's lead will be cut down quite a bit going into next holiday. i don't think even a wildly successful natal can get the 360 to sell some 5ish million units over and above the ps3's next holiday sales.


Well, ODST was still widely viewed as an expansion pack, so it's a bit unfair of a comparison. Think of Natal as the ps3 slim, obviously, it got the ps3 to sell a good amount over the 360. Natal with normal success will do what the slim is doing with the ps3. I think Natal will be insanely succesful however because of how much support and hype it has from the casual audience, mostly novelty curiosity.

Also Sonys motion control will propel Natals sales even more. Sonys motion control is similar enough to the wii in the eyes of the casual audience (the most important audience in this regard) that it might hurt it's sales just a bit. In term, when Natal releases it would make more people take interest and be compelled to purchase Natal because it's so different. It won't be viewed as the same type of 'toy' as the wii and sony motion controls, preventing people from reasoning, well I have a Wii already, why would I spend hundreds of $$$ for this. People will think, well I don't have this.

Slim price went down. Natal price will probably go up. Will still sell well but it will prove to be different from the slim scenario.



lmao. wasnt it the last few years that sony fans were accused of using the term "wait til...." "wait till...."

and now xbox fans are doing the same?



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