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darthdevidem01 on 25 September 2009
ph4nt said:
@Cgi and Darth. play nice!

Here I will contribute.

It does matter that GC and N64 got beat up last gen, it matters a lot. Just look at 3rd party support. The N64 things started going down hill, the Gamecube was almost completely ignored, and now Wii, even though it's selling like mad, has to fight for every little scrap of 3rd party support.

It does matter if Ps3 loses, because 3rd party support has steadily been going down this entire generation, I can't think of too many truly great PS3 exclusives outside of MGS4 from third parties while as with PS2 there were more games than you could count, and sales have been down, down a lot, for 3rd party software on the system.

It also matters that PS3 is coming from a very successful predecessor, if PS2 was on a downhill trend from PS1, PS3 would not see nearly as much support as it is now.

Sony is living on brand power from last generation, it's the one thing keeping them alive. Nintendo on the other hand, has to build up that brand to appeal to 3rd parties more.

lol you win I guess!

@CGI

According to you it gave plenty

But check the PS3 & Gamecubes library & what the hardcore gaming media feel.

Gamecube was still seen as a console with not many great games......while PS3 isn't seen that way.

Gamecube being 3rd did matter.....for PS3 thanks to Ps2 it didn't matter. YOu might say it had "plenty" great games

but it lost tons more as it was in 3rd place......with the PS3 that didn't really happen, once again, thanks to Ps2 Daddy!



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darthdevidem01 on 25 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ph4nt said:
@Cgi and Darth. play nice!

Here I will contribute.

It does matter that GC and N64 got beat up last gen, it matters a lot. Just look at 3rd party support. The N64 things started going down hill, the Gamecube was almost completely ignored, and now Wii, even though it's selling like mad, has to fight for every little scrap of 3rd party support.

It does matter if Ps3 loses, because 3rd party support has steadily been going down this entire generation, I can't think of too many truly great PS3 exclusives outside of MGS4 from third parties while as with PS2 there were more games than you could count, and sales have been down, down a lot, for 3rd party software on the system.

It also matters that PS3 is coming from a very successful predecessor, if PS2 was on a downhill trend from PS1, PS3 would not see nearly as much support as it is now.

Sony is living on brand power from last generation, it's the one thing keeping them alive. Nintendo on the other hand, has to build up that brand to appeal to 3rd parties more.

lol you win I guess!

@CGI

According to you it gave plenty

But check the PS3 & Gamecubes library & what the hardcore gaming media feel.

Gamecube was still seen as a console with not many great games......while PS3 isn't seen that way.

Gamecube being 3rd did matter.....for PS3 thanks to Ps2 it didn't matter. YOu might say it had "plenty" great games

but it lost tons more as it was in 3rd place......with the PS3 that didn't really happen, once again, thanks to Ps2 Daddy!

If you say so...

you didn't own the Gamecube CGI as your only console for most of last gen

trust me the 3rd Party software drought was awful



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

saicho on 25 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
saicho said:
CGI-Quality said:
routsounmanman said:
I am not longing for anyone to cry. It's just that, well, many people will. Last year, HD twins had a fantastic line-up yet the Wii beat them up with nothing but crappiness.

Trust me, Wii will leave both Sony and Microsoft in the dust this holiday season as well. The only region I see something changing is Japan, where Nintendo has totally dropped the ball and let Sony grab all the core audience.

Again, I am on neither side. I'll line up to buy both New Super Mario Bros. and Uncharted 2. It's just that it's too late for a PS3 comeback, people need to realise that. TheSource put it amazingly simple : If the PS3 keeps outselling the Wii weekly, in 500 weeks it will get ahead...

I can understand your outlook on PS3's situation, I agree with it. But does it really matter if PS3 loses? This question is for everybody too, not just you.

in that case, does it matter if it outsells its competition for 3 weeks after getting beat up for almost 3 years? It goes both ways.

What goes both ways? Why does it matter if it loses if people still have plenty of games to play and it remains competitive? Did it matter that Nintendo got "beat up" for the last two gens?

Answer all those reasonably, rather than getting touchy for nothing....

If Sony outsells its competition for 3 weeks after getting beat up for almost 3 years does not matter, we wouldn't have this thread to start with.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

darthdevidem01 on 25 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ph4nt said:
@Cgi and Darth. play nice!

Here I will contribute.

It does matter that GC and N64 got beat up last gen, it matters a lot. Just look at 3rd party support. The N64 things started going down hill, the Gamecube was almost completely ignored, and now Wii, even though it's selling like mad, has to fight for every little scrap of 3rd party support.

It does matter if Ps3 loses, because 3rd party support has steadily been going down this entire generation, I can't think of too many truly great PS3 exclusives outside of MGS4 from third parties while as with PS2 there were more games than you could count, and sales have been down, down a lot, for 3rd party software on the system.

It also matters that PS3 is coming from a very successful predecessor, if PS2 was on a downhill trend from PS1, PS3 would not see nearly as much support as it is now.

Sony is living on brand power from last generation, it's the one thing keeping them alive. Nintendo on the other hand, has to build up that brand to appeal to 3rd parties more.

lol you win I guess!

@CGI

According to you it gave plenty

But check the PS3 & Gamecubes library & what the hardcore gaming media feel.

Gamecube was still seen as a console with not many great games......while PS3 isn't seen that way.

Gamecube being 3rd did matter.....for PS3 thanks to Ps2 it didn't matter. YOu might say it had "plenty" great games

but it lost tons more as it was in 3rd place......with the PS3 that didn't really happen, once again, thanks to Ps2 Daddy!

If you say so...

you didn't own the Gamecube CGI as your only console for most of last gen

trust me the 3rd Party software drought was awful

You sure about darth, I mean are you absolutely positive? I didn't buy my PS2 or Xbox until 2003 and 2004. I bought my Gamecube at launch. Wanna try again?

lol I looked at you games collection & didn't see GC there, I see it now

looking at your gamecube library & then your Ps3 library are you sure you don't agree with me?

they were both 3rd place consoles......we can see which one you supported more.

Its library of 3rd party games is extremely limited......because of low sales.

So it does matter that it was in 3rd place......for PS3 it doesn't anymore thanks to xbox 360 being its "twin" & wii being a different ball game in terms of developing games.

 

 



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

huaxiong90 on 25 September 2009

CGI, what does "TC" stand for?



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darthdevidem01 on 25 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
ph4nt said:
@Cgi and Darth. play nice!

Here I will contribute.

It does matter that GC and N64 got beat up last gen, it matters a lot. Just look at 3rd party support. The N64 things started going down hill, the Gamecube was almost completely ignored, and now Wii, even though it's selling like mad, has to fight for every little scrap of 3rd party support.

It does matter if Ps3 loses, because 3rd party support has steadily been going down this entire generation, I can't think of too many truly great PS3 exclusives outside of MGS4 from third parties while as with PS2 there were more games than you could count, and sales have been down, down a lot, for 3rd party software on the system.

It also matters that PS3 is coming from a very successful predecessor, if PS2 was on a downhill trend from PS1, PS3 would not see nearly as much support as it is now.

Sony is living on brand power from last generation, it's the one thing keeping them alive. Nintendo on the other hand, has to build up that brand to appeal to 3rd parties more.

lol you win I guess!

@CGI

According to you it gave plenty

But check the PS3 & Gamecubes library & what the hardcore gaming media feel.

Gamecube was still seen as a console with not many great games......while PS3 isn't seen that way.

Gamecube being 3rd did matter.....for PS3 thanks to Ps2 it didn't matter. YOu might say it had "plenty" great games

but it lost tons more as it was in 3rd place......with the PS3 that didn't really happen, once again, thanks to Ps2 Daddy!

If you say so...

you didn't own the Gamecube CGI as your only console for most of last gen

trust me the 3rd Party software drought was awful

You sure about darth, I mean are you absolutely positive? I didn't buy my PS2 or Xbox until 2003 and 2004. I bought my Gamecube at launch. Wanna try again?

lol I looked at you games collection & didn't see GC there, I see it now

looking at your gamecube library & then your Ps3 library are you sure you don't agree with me?

they were both 3rd place consoles......we can see which one you supported more.

Its library of 3rd party games is extremely limited......because of low sales.

So it does matter that it was in 3rd place......for PS3 it doesn't anymore thanks to xbox 360 being its "twin" & wii being a different ball game in terms of developing games.

 

 

I had more Xbox games than Gamecube games, yet I prefer the Gamecube. I have less PS3 games than 360 games yet prefer PS3's library...

Amount isn't everything you know....

Thats all fine in its own place

we are talking about 3rd party support & how beign 3rd place affects games coming to a console

re-read ph4nts post, he has everything nailed.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Stefan.De.Machtige on 25 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
CGI-Quality said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
A comeback is impressive when you're last and finish first.

This is not like that, is it?

Any kind of comeback is impressive if it helps the industry. The PS3 selling at a MUCH higher rate does just that

How does selling more PS3 help the industry? It helps Sony to finally make some profit, down the line i hope. But the industry? 

Sony is a competitor, if they are profiting, IT HELPS THE INDUSTRY. You just answered your own question.

Besides, more consoles in homes ALSO helps the industry...

It helps the industry do what? 

make more money for the (third party) developers?

Not really, multi-releases make this point invalid. Any software can be sold on other systems. The PS3 isn't the only console in the market. Its HD counterpart can do its job as well. The wii even has cheaper development costs.

the big word of innovation?

Not really, wii did the 'wand' first, and Natal can even be bigger (we'll see how this pans out - but it certainly can't be ignored).

Graphics?

Not really, for the price of a PS3 you can get a more powerful PC/laptop, let alone its hd console rival. And the wii proves most gamers don't care that much anyway. If they did, it wouldn't be in first place.

Blue-ray (you say)?

Fun games or their gameplay have nothing to do with storage. The XBOX360 and wii proves that with a fine line-up of games. You know Sony put Blue-ray in to win the storage struggle with HD-DVD.

Not to forget: More space to fill, more development money. The costs to gamesmaking are already very (or too) high.

Online perhaps? 

The Xbox can do the same. Better perhaps but you're going to have to pay for it - i fear. The wii's one id free and isn't much worse.

In an final point:

You're  attaching your own emotions to the PS3 and it's fate. You clearly see Sony as the industry. That is your right. But no console is the industry, nor does its existence make it so.

Even if Sony drops out (not gonna happen off course), then its studios- and marketingspending would be spend by the competition, mainly micrsoft. The industry would stay the same size and the people who work in it, would still work in it (Sony would sell these parts off).

It helps Sony, not the industry.  When you have two console who do the same, then one can be largely missed. That's the problem for the HD twins.

(And yes, the wii has its own problems - for the HD fanboys- so don't bother commenting about that)

 



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nen-suer on 25 September 2009
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
CGI-Quality said:

I had more Xbox games than Gamecube games, yet I prefer the Gamecube. I have less PS3 games than 360 games yet prefer PS3's library...

Amount isn't everything you know....

This

The PS1 is my all time favorite console even tho my PS2 games collection  is more than double the amount



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ph4nt on 25 September 2009

^I have to agree with that.

CGI may love the PS3, but hes not dumb and doesn't translate that to PS3 "is the industry".

Liking the PS3 isn't a bad thing unless you are one of the embarassing fanboys on this site.



mhsillen on 25 September 2009

This is a comeback
The Buffalo Bills trailed the houston Oilers 35 - 3 in the 3rd quarter
And came back and WON 41-38
That is a comeback
When or if the PS3 sells more total consoles then it has a comeback