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naznatips said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Wii Fit will turn people fit as much as Brain training did train their brains .Thats it ,not at all .

Nintendo will release their Mario games (Olympics ,Galaxy ,Kart and Brawl ) and have their big holiday success .Then for 2008 they dont have nothing at all .

I dont know if the Wii is a fad or not ,but whats clear is that its not a very good video game console .

As for PS3 it has some solid games this fall as Ratchet and Clank ,Unreal 3 ,Haze ,Assasins Creed ,Uncharted ,Pro Evolution Soccer ,Singstar ,Orange Box ,Gran Turismo Prologue,Stranglehold ,Oblivion GOTY ,NBA 2K ,NHL ,NHL2K .. etc ...plus a already solid lineup that Wii doesnt have .Ps3 ,no matter how this hurts some people feelings ,will gain ground with the time and not the reverse .Wii we will have to see ,maybe it will turn into a niche system for phisic exercise and gun games but it is just to weak hardware wise to turn into the next standar.I would bet with anyone that the developers wont throw by the window all their expensive technology and development teams and tools just to turn them to develop some Wii minigames .

I don't know if Brain Training actually trains your brain or not, but it looks like you could use some brain training regardless. 

The Wii has nothing for 08?  The sequels to the 2 best selling GC games (Brawl and Kart) are both in 08...

People, for the last time:  Listing 4 games on a system you don't own then all the games you can think of on the system you do own makes you look like an idiot.  That sounds harsh, but it's true and it's for your benefit to stop doing it.  I'm trying to help you Diomedes, but as long as you (or leo-j, or Soriku, or anyone else who makes those lists) does that it will only make YOU look ignorant.

 

Poor nintendo fanboys ,you played too much brain training and now you believe that you are smart .Why should I train my brain ,just to agree with the likes as you and Neo ?Dont be ridiculous ,that would be a lobotomy more like .

Now maybe I am a big ignorant of all those dozens of big budget Wii games we just dont hear about whenever a new game is announced .After the various Marios come out (and with them Nights in january ) in the first months of 08 I would like to hear from you ,Nintendo savant ,wich games are scheduled for the Wii .Because what I see when a company announces one games is "due to 360 and PS3 " .....look at games as Fallout 3 ,GTAIV ,Pandora the Box ,Fracture ,Prototype ,the science fiction horror game from EA ,Silent Hill 5 ,Borderlands  etc etc .All is announced for PS3 and 360 ,nearly anything for the Wii save some low budget compensatory games (as Soul Calibur legends to name one).Now enlighten us and thell us all those dozens of games that will cover the space of all the high budget quality games that are being produced as we speak for PS3/360/PC and wont appear ever on Wii .

 



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I think Nintendomination is only just getting started.

I think it's almost unarguable that Nintendo is stocking up for Christmas.

It's easy to see how the 360 is doing well, with the recent Halo 3 launch. It's also easy to see PS3's improvements, especially in Other region due to the European price cuts.

 

You're jumping the gun, topic starter.



@kber81 I believe that the 360's high failure rate issues have been fixed, so if someone picked up a new one... (also the PS2 had a high failure rate)

@general topic:

This has been brought up a couple hundred times, but within it's first year, the PS2 did sink to 3k units/week sold. Furthermore, at the low point of the PS2's sales every year, it sank into the 20-30k/week range for several weeks.

This topic is the product of more people having week-to-week statistics than in the past, and thinking that short-term fluxuations means permanent change in the market. It's really quite silly how often its used: in terms of a hardware boost from a new model or a price drop, or a decline in sales due to the time of year. Have patience, be aware of past patterns and be able to see the big picture.



fkusumot said:

B

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Nintendo is destroying the industry!

When PS60 get price cut, Wii is through.


Wii Fit!!????

Nintendo is abandoning the hardcore!

When this game comes out, THEN the PS360 will take off!

Nintendo not serious about online.

Wii is just a party machine.

Wii sells because it is cheap.


Pachter says…

Nintendo milks profit due to inferior hardware!

Gamecube started well at first too…


Wii is a fad!


FREE


LOL minigames!!1!

PS3 is on a ten year plan.

Wii is two Gamecube systems put together by duct tape!


Argh!!! Non-games!!!1!!!


Wii-mote is a gimmick.


Stupid casual gamers!

Only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo systems.

When HD adoption rate goes up, Wii is finished.

Who cares about Wii sales? All the real games are on PS60!


Where are the third parties? LOL!


VC is overpriced rom dump!

What happens when people get bored of Wii Sports


 So funny ... so damn funny. +9999 for fkusumot.



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fkusumot said:

B

I

N

G

O

Nintendo is destroying the industry!

When PS60 get price cut, Wii is through.


Wii Fit!!????

Nintendo is abandoning the hardcore!

When this game comes out, THEN the PS360 will take off!

Nintendo not serious about online.

Wii is just a party machine.

Wii sells because it is cheap.


Pachter says…

Nintendo milks profit due to inferior hardware!

Gamecube started well at first too…


Wii is a fad!


FREE


LOL minigames!!1!

PS3 is on a ten year plan.

Wii is two Gamecube systems put together by duct tape!


Argh!!! Non-games!!!1!!!


Wii-mote is a gimmick.


Stupid casual gamers!

Only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo systems.

When HD adoption rate goes up, Wii is finished.

Who cares about Wii sales? All the real games are on PS60!


Where are the third parties? LOL!


VC is overpriced rom dump!

What happens when people get bored of Wii Sports


fkusumot you are amazing.....you are going to be my first friend request (i decided i should start doing it)

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There is some heated discussion in this thread. I think it's about time that this thread ends. You guys are all pushing to get banned and most of you are heavy posters. So watch what you say and keep it clean, I don't want to see the message boards die due to all the bans.



Prepare for termination! It is the only logical thing to do, for I am only loyal to Megatron.

Diomedes1976 said:
naznatips said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Wii Fit will turn people fit as much as Brain training did train their brains .Thats it ,not at all .

Nintendo will release their Mario games (Olympics ,Galaxy ,Kart and Brawl ) and have their big holiday success .Then for 2008 they dont have nothing at all .

I dont know if the Wii is a fad or not ,but whats clear is that its not a very good video game console .

As for PS3 it has some solid games this fall as Ratchet and Clank ,Unreal 3 ,Haze ,Assasins Creed ,Uncharted ,Pro Evolution Soccer ,Singstar ,Orange Box ,Gran Turismo Prologue,Stranglehold ,Oblivion GOTY ,NBA 2K ,NHL ,NHL2K .. etc ...plus a already solid lineup that Wii doesnt have .Ps3 ,no matter how this hurts some people feelings ,will gain ground with the time and not the reverse .Wii we will have to see ,maybe it will turn into a niche system for phisic exercise and gun games but it is just to weak hardware wise to turn into the next standar.I would bet with anyone that the developers wont throw by the window all their expensive technology and development teams and tools just to turn them to develop some Wii minigames .

I don't know if Brain Training actually trains your brain or not, but it looks like you could use some brain training regardless.

The Wii has nothing for 08? The sequels to the 2 best selling GC games (Brawl and Kart) are both in 08...

People, for the last time: Listing 4 games on a system you don't own then all the games you can think of on the system you do own makes you look like an idiot. That sounds harsh, but it's true and it's for your benefit to stop doing it. I'm trying to help you Diomedes, but as long as you (or leo-j, or Soriku, or anyone else who makes those lists) does that it will only make YOU look ignorant.

 

Poor nintendo fanboys ,you played too much brain training and now you believe that you are smart .Why should I train my brain ,just to agree with the likes as you and Neo ?Dont be ridiculous ,that would be a lobotomy more like .

Now maybe I am a big ignorant of all those dozens of big budget Wii games we just dont hear about whenever a new game is announced .After the various Marios come out (and with them Nights in january ) in the first months of 08 I would like to hear from you ,Nintendo savant ,wich games are scheduled for the Wii .Because what I see when a company announces one games is "due to 360 and PS3 " .....look at games as Fallout 3 ,GTAIV ,Pandora the Box ,Fracture ,Prototype ,the science fiction horror game from EA ,Silent Hill 5 ,Borderlands etc etc .All is announced for PS3 and 360 ,nearly anything for the Wii save some low budget compensatory games (as Soul Calibur legends to name one).Now enlighten us and thell us all those dozens of games that will cover the space of all the high budget quality games that are being produced as we speak for PS3/360/PC and wont appear ever on Wii .

 


 I think you need to train your fingers.  Commas come before spaces, not after them.  Same with periods.



Diomedes1976 said:
naznatips said:
kber81 said:
naznatips said:

If you don't think Mario Galaxy will solve the Wii's problems, how do you expect unknown and untested new IPs like Uncharted and Haze to solve the PS3's problems? I would be willing to bet that no single game in the PS3's life ever sells as much as Mario Galaxy does on the Wii. I'm not sure what you are calling the end of the PS3 drought, but if the PS3 drought is over, the Wii drought is more than solved.


Nope. Wii has a real problem with quality software. Mario Galaxy will sell a lot but it's only one game. PS3 keeps steady stream of solid games since August. I don't expect new games to solve a PS3's problem because there is no problem at all. Before end of the year PS3 will have planty very interesting games appealing to broad audiency. N64 and GC have few heavy hitters too but it isn't enough. No sport games, shooters, racers - key genres outside Japan etc. Nintendo should be extremely happy with GTAIV delay.


This is an unbelievably offbalanced point of view.  The Wii has trouble with quality software? The Wii has 3 9.0+ game.  The PS3 has 1, and it's been out on the 360 for months before it was even released on the PS3.  The Last PS3 game released that scored an 8+ is Heavenly Sword and it's the low end. You want to talk about software diversity problems?  How about some statistics:

Of the PS3's 27 7.5+ rated games, 7 are exclusive.  The PS3 still has yet to recieve an exclusive 9.0+ game, and only 1 non-exclusive one.  As for diversity of game library: of the PS3's 27 games 11 are sports, 7 shooters, 4 racers, 3 action, 1 RPG, 1 adventure

Of the Wii's 15 7.5+ rated games, 11 are exclusive.  The Wii has 1 exclusive 9.0+ game and 3 9.0+ games total. The diversity of it's library is as follows: 4 sports, 2 adventure, 2 minigame, 2 action, 1 simulation, 1 shooter, 1 RPG/platformer, 1 puzzle, and 1 racer.  

What's this mean?  It means the PS3 lacks exclusive good games.  Meaning if you want to play the PS3's games, the 360 is by far the better option because it's cheaper and has it's own robust library of exclusive games.  If you want to play the Wii's good games, you need a Wii.  If you want to play the most genres on one system, the Wii covers more genres than the PS3.  

So, I repeat, if the PS3 doesn't have problems with software, the Wii never did.  As far as the PS3 having lots of big games left this year and Mario Galaxy not being that big, go ahead and pick 5 PS3 games from now to December 31st on the PS3, and I will bet you Super Mario Galaxy outsells every single one of them combined lifetime worldwide.  


The Wii 9+ games are in fact Cube games turned into Wii ones that the forgiving press dont push too hard in the graphics/control/sound departments .You countint RE2 ,Zelda TP and some more as Wii exclusives when you can play them in the likes of the Cube and PS2 isnt very fair .

The PS3 has had since Heavenly Sword at least these games rated more than 8 .Skate (8.8 in IGN ) ,Warhawk (8.8 in IGN ) ,Sega Rally (8 in IGN and 8.8 in IGN UK ) ,NHL (8.8 in IGN ) ,Eye of Judgement (8 in IGN ) ,Folklore ( 9 in IGN ) ,Colin Mc Rae DIRT (8.4 in IGN ) .

 Face it ,the PS3 library eats alive the Wii one .


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Diomedes1976 said:
naznatips said:
Diomedes1976 said:
Wii Fit will turn people fit as much as Brain training did train their brains .Thats it ,not at all .

Nintendo will release their Mario games (Olympics ,Galaxy ,Kart and Brawl ) and have their big holiday success .Then for 2008 they dont have nothing at all .

I dont know if the Wii is a fad or not ,but whats clear is that its not a very good video game console .

As for PS3 it has some solid games this fall as Ratchet and Clank ,Unreal 3 ,Haze ,Assasins Creed ,Uncharted ,Pro Evolution Soccer ,Singstar ,Orange Box ,Gran Turismo Prologue,Stranglehold ,Oblivion GOTY ,NBA 2K ,NHL ,NHL2K .. etc ...plus a already solid lineup that Wii doesnt have .Ps3 ,no matter how this hurts some people feelings ,will gain ground with the time and not the reverse .Wii we will have to see ,maybe it will turn into a niche system for phisic exercise and gun games but it is just to weak hardware wise to turn into the next standar.I would bet with anyone that the developers wont throw by the window all their expensive technology and development teams and tools just to turn them to develop some Wii minigames .

I don't know if Brain Training actually trains your brain or not, but it looks like you could use some brain training regardless.

The Wii has nothing for 08? The sequels to the 2 best selling GC games (Brawl and Kart) are both in 08...

People, for the last time: Listing 4 games on a system you don't own then all the games you can think of on the system you do own makes you look like an idiot. That sounds harsh, but it's true and it's for your benefit to stop doing it. I'm trying to help you Diomedes, but as long as you (or leo-j, or Soriku, or anyone else who makes those lists) does that it will only make YOU look ignorant.

 

Poor nintendo fanboys ,you played too much brain training and now you believe that you are smart .Why should I train my brain ,just to agree with the likes as you and Neo ?Dont be ridiculous ,that would be a lobotomy more like .

Now maybe I am a big ignorant of all those dozens of big budget Wii games we just dont hear about whenever a new game is announced .After the various Marios come out (and with them Nights in january ) in the first months of 08 I would like to hear from you ,Nintendo savant ,wich games are scheduled for the Wii .Because what I see when a company announces one games is "due to 360 and PS3 " .....look at games as Fallout 3 ,GTAIV ,Pandora the Box ,Fracture ,Prototype ,the science fiction horror game from EA ,Silent Hill 5 ,Borderlands etc etc .All is announced for PS3 and 360 ,nearly anything for the Wii save some low budget compensatory games (as Soul Calibur legends to name one).Now enlighten us and thell us all those dozens of games that will cover the space of all the high budget quality games that are being produced as we speak for PS3/360/PC and wont appear ever on Wii .

 


NiGHTS is an 07 title. Again, don't talk about systems you know nothing about. In 2008 the Wii has these first party games announced: Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Kart, Disaster: Day of Crisis, Kirby, Wii Fit, a Camelot RPG, Super Mario Stadium Baseball, and Wii Music. There are also numerous Wii Ware games announced or in Production such as Pokemon Farm and Doctor Mario. Third party games (that look good) that are announced include: Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace, Rune Factory Wii, Oboro Murasama, King's Story, Monster Lab, No More Heroes, Monster Hunter 3, We Love Golf, Civilization Revolution, Star Wars: Force Unleashed, Space Station Tycoon, Tales of Symphonia: KoR, Sword of Legendia, De Blob, Brave, Blocks, and Final Fantasy CC:TCB. There are also a lot of Wii Ware games announced, but I'm bored of listing games.

This is all on a system that was expected to flop and flop hard by 3rd parties. I don't think the Wii has the best 08 lineup, but the fact that it's even reasonably decent on a system that was doomed by every financial anlyst in existence before the generation started shows it's certainly not in trouble. We also haven't even hit the time of year when most game announcements are delivered (Q1 08). The DS had crappy 3rd party support for the first couple years too, but look at it now. Not to mention the Wii has yet to deliver any kind of pricedrop.



choirsoftheeye said:

I think you need to train your fingers.  Commas come before spaces, not after them.  Same with periods.

Forget it. Others before you have tried. There's really no hope to be had. 



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