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TWRoO on 16 October 2007
makingmusic476 said:
carlos710 said:
makingmusic476 said:
Ishy said:
no way 11 million sold by march 08, maybe 9 mill tho

The ps3 should be very close to 9 mil. by the end of the year. Why would it take them until March to sell that many?


Because they wont be close to 9 mil by end of the year.

Im willing to bet on that, they won't reach even 8 million on 2007


 Why?  Generally, 50% of CE sales occur during the 4th quarter of the calendar year, because of the holiday saeson.  For example, last year, the 360 had only managed to sell ~4.5 mil. consoles worldwide by the end of September.  However, it managed to sell another ~4 mil. consoles throughout the holidays, bringing it's year end totalsclose to 9 mil. consoles sold.  Why would the same not happen for the ps3?  Especially with the recent price drops and addition of the 40gb SKU.  Not to mention the fact the ps3 is just now getting good games, like R&C5 and Uncharted.


You have that quite right in theory, but quite wrong in numbers.

360  1st Jan 2006 -  1st Oct 2006   = 3.48 million ....(you forgot the 360 was released before Jan)
360  1st Oct 2006 -  31st Dec 2006 = 3.16 million (though this was the first time it had lots of supply everywhere)

so generally the last quarter is almost half the other 3 quarters. (i would argue that its much closer to 50/50 if you use the first 2/3 and the last 1/3....but because of companies using quarter years for financials its easier this way)

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360 31st Dec 2006 - 30th Sept 2007  =  3.66 million (i think similar sales to last year for last quarter will be probable...about 3.1 mil)

PS3 31st Dec 2006 - 30th Sept 2007  = 3.65 million (laughably close sales....i expect slightly more than 360 sales for last quarter....about 3.2-3.3 million.....which puts the PS3 at slightly over 8 million)



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Wojtas on 16 October 2007

Well fancy that Mars. You mean that Assasins Creed isn't a strong title now that it's going to be released on the xbox? Maybe you're talking about GTA 4? No wait, you must be talking about CoD 4: Modern Warfare. Stop acting the goat.



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NJ5 on 16 October 2007
Wojtas said:
I understand when people say that PES 2008 is a good game and all, but just what makes you believe that it will move systems like there's no tomorrow? Especially when you can play the very same game on xbox, and it'll be cheaper(in terms of buying console+game)? Cool your heads down, the game is awesome, but it's not as if a football game will suddenly redefine ps3 sales.

Good job Sony for making people buy your product. I just wonder how sales would look like if they never announced that the 60 gb sku was discontinued? I guess that sales will drop by 40% after two weeks and raise a bit again for the holidays.

Actually the "par excellence" systems for PES games are the PC and the PS2. Considering that Europe will get a PS2 + PES08 bundle for 160 € and that most football maniacs already have a PS2 (or they're PC players), I don't see PES 2008 pushing many 360's nor PS3's...

 



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Wojtas on 16 October 2007

Well yeah, if i implied that any of the next gen consoles are the main stage for the game, i did so unintentionally. Anyway you also validate my point, that a game such as PES2008, although being an excellent game, by no means should be used as a system seller title.



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cool48 on 16 October 2007

Sweet that PS3 beat the Wii. Always been a Sony fan. When The 40GB PS3 will come out I'll be there waiting



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ion-storm on 16 October 2007
Wojtas said:
I understand when people say that PES 2008 is a good game and all, but just what makes you believe that it will move systems like there's no tomorrow? Especially when you can play the very same game on xbox, and it'll be cheaper(in terms of buying console+game)? Cool your heads down, the game is awesome, but it's not as if a football game will suddenly redefine ps3 sales.

Good job Sony for making people buy your product. I just wonder how sales would look like if they never announced that the 60 gb sku was discontinued? I guess that sales will drop by 40% after two weeks and raise a bit again for the holidays.

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Mars on 16 October 2007
HappySqurriel said:
Mars said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

expensive, has a solid line-up, and is very (VERY) family friendly; and the XBox 360 easily has the best line-up of the three with Bio-Shock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and versions of most of the PS3's strongest titles.


Who you kidding with that ?

Since day one PS3 strongest titles were Sony made, and it wont change any time soon with Ratchet or Uncharted. Maybe you think thsoe two will apper on 360 ?


A couple of months ago Call of Duty 4, Army of Two, Assassin's Creed, Half Life 2: The Orange Box, and Devil May Cry 4 were considered pretty big games ...


They are pretty big, but you said PS3 strongest and neither one you said is that.



Wojtas on 16 October 2007

^Oh dear god, YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT , i lol'd :D



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HappySqurriel on 16 October 2007
Mars said:
HappySqurriel said:
Mars said:
HappySqurriel said:
 

expensive, has a solid line-up, and is very (VERY) family friendly; and the XBox 360 easily has the best line-up of the three with Bio-Shock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and versions of most of the PS3's strongest titles.


Who you kidding with that ?

Since day one PS3 strongest titles were Sony made, and it wont change any time soon with Ratchet or Uncharted. Maybe you think thsoe two will apper on 360 ?


A couple of months ago Call of Duty 4, Army of Two, Assassin's Creed, Half Life 2: The Orange Box, and Devil May Cry 4 were considered pretty big games ...


They are pretty big, but you said PS3 strongest and neither one you said is that.


So you think that having 2 excluisve games (Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted) which do not have a proven track record of massive sales (or of massive critical acclaim) will somehow make up for the fact that (pretty much) every other major game on the PS3 is available on the XBox 360 this holiday season?

Expect disapointment ...



Mars on 16 October 2007
Wojtas said:
Well fancy that Mars. You mean that Assasins Creed isn't a strong title now that it's going to be released on the xbox? Maybe you're talking about GTA 4? No wait, you must be talking about CoD 4: Modern Warfare. Stop acting the goat.

 He said strongest titles.

And i said Ratchet and Uncharted NOT games coming out in 2008, you want to comapre 08 feel free top post anything multiplatform aginast Killzone LittleBigPlanet GranTurismo5, also exclusives like MGS4 or FF13.

And my original post still stands, Sony own games are PS3s strongest and sales prove me right.

 i get it you two want to make the PS3 look bad in any way possible, saying its best games are on 360 is one of them but we all know that not true.  So cut the crap and post something intelligent.