catchy song... i missed he rest i'll watch it on iplayer later.
catchy song... i missed he rest i'll watch it on iplayer later.
It looks to be a micro fracture fault on the mainboard.
Basically YLOD = RROD
This seems to come back to the lack of use of lead free solder coupled with a lack of adequate cooling.
Can someone tell me is the lead solder use illegal for environmental concerns or was it a commercial decision.
Thanks to that program I now know that a man who claims he can cure cancer with his hands is a con-artist, glad the BBC was able to work that one out for me! Anyway, I caught the start of the program (before it became too painful to watch) and they really didn't seem to provide any information regarding the PS3 failures. They basically said that some of the launch models break down and Sony charge you to fix them if it's outside the warranty. Not really cutting edge jounalism but maybe I missed something at the end?
On the UK gaming forum I post on about 10 people had this problem and all got their PS3 replaced free of charge out of warranty. They just rung them up and yelled a bit, no trouble at all. Maybe Sony's paying initiative is a new thing though.
If Watchdog's sample is really only 3 Ps3s of which one is modded then they've no right to air anything about this.
Yeap
Posted it here http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=86301&page=5
Also has the full statement supplied to watchdog.
I particularly liked the Gazebrotten song. I think they have certainly made a good frist case despite Sony's vailed threats that they have a issue with the PS3. Of course this does not mean that it can be claimed inherent I think watchdog have to claim a higher percentage of failures something that will prove difficult.
So all you need is this special oven and you are good to go for the fix.
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Kinect as seen by PS3 owners ...if you can pick at it ...post it ... Did I mention the 360 was black and Shinny? Keeping Sigs obscure since 2007, Passed by the Sig police 5July10.| kowenicki said: I'd be particularly interested to see MIkeB's view on the fact that it is an inherent design fault. Every single YLOD they inspected had exactly the same fault and required exactly the same repair. Sony would NOT repair them outside of ONE year warranty without a payment. They refuse to accept they are all the same fault and say it is not an inherent design problem. |
Here theres 2 years warrenty :p here in denmark.. Also sony said that "fewer than one half of one per cent of units have been reported as failing in circumstances where the yellow indicator is illuminated."
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=86301
I didn't watch it.. Naturally.. not in uk.
Just to clarify....
The BBC showed 16 PS3 which had YLOD.
They were all fixed by reseating of chips and a blast in a purpose built oven for 20 mins.
Basically whatever the fault was it seems to be identical on all machines which is something SONY currently says isnt so.
I guess the BBC proved that point.
I should also point out that 4 of the YLODS fixed have failed again.
| kowenicki said: I'd be particularly interested to see MIkeB's view on the fact that it is an inherent design fault. Every single YLOD they inspected had exactly the same fault and required exactly the same repair. Sony would NOT repair them outside of ONE year warranty without a payment. They refuse to accept they are all the same fault and say it is not an inherent design problem. |
So they claim to have found the fault then, ok maybe I should have watched it until the end! Did they specify what the design fault was or give any indication to failure rates ect?
@ kowenicki
My view is still the same as in the past. The PS3 and 360 problems can't be compared, evidence suggests that even when cutting out the RROD 360 issues (vast majority of issues) 360s still fail more than PS3s (all kinds of failures combined).
I think the original PS3 (probably the US model more so) is more prone to overheating problems than the later units and the later units are more prone to Blu-Ray reading related failures than the older model (haven't read anything about the slim yet). Sony provides 1 year manufacturer warranty on this, which is the same for Microsoft (as minus RROD issues 360 the remaining hardware failures usually not covered by 3 year warranty is still more significant), not the mention well known about and deeply investigated 360 disc scratching issues.
If your PS3 does fail, it's out of normal warranty and you did noting wrong with the device. IMO still take it back to the retailer (a PS3 should work problem free for at the very least 3 years), if they aren't helpful (normal procedure, almost everywhere), write a letter and ask to talk to the manager. I think in many cases at the bigger stores things can be sorted out this way and come to a satisfactory conclusion.
| kowenicki said: @cypher yeah the YLOD problem is identical to the RROD problem... just not as common. |
I 100 percent agree