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Falcon095 said:

 Not to mention that he even complained when WoW said that everybody should say "I'm pro town" and said that insisting was a waste of time.

Of note, I did not complain about the use in this thread. I said, and stand by, if we are going to insist on doing such things then that should be considered in the future for game balance purposes. If people want to go around having everyone state they are pro or anti town then you are giving a second cop to the town side which tips the balance in a huge way. People have done a very good job of mis-reading my posts this thread.



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If he hadnt answered (which i thought that was going to happen btw) I probably would've voted for him (or at very least make a warning about him) but he did answered and it was a good answer, I couldn't think in any way to counter it so I don't think that voting for him just for that would've been a good idea because if you think about it, it isnt a reason to justify a vote (It made him look very suspicious, tough), at least not in day 1, we're are not that desperate in day 1



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Gnizmo said:
Falcon095 said:

 Not to mention that he even complained when WoW said that everybody should say "I'm pro town" and said that insisting was a waste of time.

Of note, I did not complain about the use in this thread. I said, and stand by, if we are going to insist on doing such things then that should be considered in the future for game balance purposes. If people want to go around having everyone state they are pro or anti town then you are giving a second cop to the town side which tips the balance in a huge way. People have done a very good job of mis-reading my posts this thread.

Oh I know what you meant but still, if you hadnt been mafia you wouldn't have cared as much as you did, I know how you feel.. I was mafia last game and there were many things that unbalanced the game for us, but i still didnt say them because I would've looked suspicious (like you did). So I told those things when the game was over (Nobody cared, though >_>)

There are many "flaws" that should be taken in consideration but I don't thing that everybody stating "I'm pro town" is a big deal because even if the lie detector investigate everybody he still cant say that without taking the risk of being caugh and lose the abilitie and there a big chance that people wont believe them because its too easy to role claim being a lie detector *cough* DGC in last game *cough*



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Falcon095 said:

Oh I know what you meant but still, if you hadnt been mafia you wouldn't have cared as much as you did, I know how you feel.. I was mafia last game and there were many things that unbalanced the game for us, but i still didnt say them because I would've looked suspicious (like you did). So I told those things when the game was over (Nobody cared, though >_>)

There are many "flaws" that should be taken in consideration but I don't thing that everybody stating "I'm pro town" is a big deal because even if the lie detector investigate everybody he still cant say that without taking the risk of being caugh and lose the abilitie and there a big chance that people wont believe them because its too easy to role claim being a lie detector *cough* DGC in last game *cough*

I have played 4 games. I have been accused of being mafia in all 4 of them because I "acted suspicious." I have been mafia in one of them. I act the same regardless of my alignment. I just naturally act "suspicious" it seems. It is also not easy to roleclaim lie detector. The second DGC did it he confirmed my suspicion that he was mafia. I can go into great detail in a PM if you like as this isn't the place to discuss it. Everything I said I will stand by at the end of the game. There was only one thing I stated that would have been different if I was not a mafia, but this is not the time to discuss that.

All that aside, adding in another check to get the mafia seriously shifts the balance. Even if it is used just once, that reduces the mafia by a third. That is a serious shift. Even without role claiming, you can get the ball rolling on someone and knock them off as mafia. After that  your next claim will be taken very seriously, and it will be the first chance the mafia has to neutralize the lie detector now turned into a second cop. That is huge.

I'll drop this discussion for now though until the end of the game. I do not want to slip and give some information I have gathered by accident, or distract people from the game at hand.



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Ok, I'll answer your post when the game is over.



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Falcon095 said:

There are many "flaws" that should be taken in consideration but I don't thing that everybody stating "I'm pro town" is a big deal because even if the lie detector investigate everybody he still cant say that without taking the risk of being caugh and lose the abilitie and there a big chance that people wont believe them because its too easy to role claim being a lie detector *cough* DGC in last game *cough*

Hey, hey, hey!!! In the third game you were the actual Lie Detector and you didn't help out at all! Infact, you got lynched by the town. :P 



4 ≈ One

Back to the game please.

What about you Dgc1808?  You're pretty ready to point the finger at Falcon... are you mafia?



Hm, still not much going on. -_-

Well, I'm going to re-read the thread. Let's see if I can find some other stuff.



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Falcon095 said:
Dgc1808 said:
Falcon095 said:
Gnizmo said:
Falcon095 said:
Mmm.. Are you mafia?

Don't be absurd. If I was mafia I would want the day to go by as quickly as possible with as little talk as possible. No point in randomly accusing people if they are willing to just lay back and get killed one by one now is there? Thus we have the need for talking, and pointless accusation.

You said we needed to talk to find out things, what's better to find out things than asking? . I'm not suggesting that you're mafia but there would be many reason of why you're asking people to talk (if you are mafia).

So.. Are you?

Where were you on the night that ThatGuy was murdered?

He ain't answering! Burn him!!!!

Okay, since we don't have much to go by, I thought I'd bring this up. I was reading through the thread and found this. Dgc was responding to Falcon, and Falcon said "He ain't answering! Burn him!!!" Dgc, were you responding to Falcon here, or were you asking Gnizmo?

Also, Falcon didn't post starting from when WoW asked everyone to post "pro-town" until the end of the day. I checked his profile and he didn't post anywhere else either, so it's possible he just wasn't online then.

I don't think that this is enough to prove Falcon is mafia at all. Instead, I would like him to explain this, and Dgc, if you could tell who you were asking the question to, that might help as well.