darthdevidem01 said:
Kantor said:
darthdevidem01 said:
its not possible to predict sales without PACK INS, as we never know how much was packed in, so Iw ill predict sales WITH pack ins
GT5 -- 10 Million (GT5:P did 4 Million + according PD.....so this is a no brainer, I cannot base the success of GT5 like RPG is on the basis of low pre-orders in america {from VGC who has just begun reporting pre-orders} for a PSP game....when PSP SW sells terribly in NA anyway)
GOW III - 2.7 million
Uncharted 2 - 1.7 million
Heavy Rain - 500K
Ryu Ga Gotoku 4 - 600k
FFXIII Versus - 1.8 Million
Ratchet & Clank: ACiT - 1.4 million
MAG - 0.75 Million
The Last Guardian - 1.13 million
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GT5- I agree on that. Don't get used to it.
God of War III- I can grudgingly agree to disagree with you on that, because I accept that some people don't have the faith to think it will outsell the original. However, I will say that GoWIII is launching earlier in the generation which gives it more time to sell, it is a more popular franchise now, and has had three iterations, and because of the PS3's lack of quality exclusives when compared to the PS2 (all consoles have a lack of quality exclusives compared to the PS2), GoWIII has more hype. Never underestimate hype. 3.5-4 million
Uncharted 2- You mention R2 and Pacific Rift. I will firstly say that R2 was a poor excuse for an FPS, and by far the worst piece of crap Insomniac have ever released. Okay, exaggerating a bit. The point is that it WAS NOT GOOD. RFOM was infinitely better, and fortunately people have some taste and chose to pick up CoD4 and WaW instead. Pacific Rift was pretty good, but to be honest, nobody cared about it.
RFOM and MotorStorm were both launch or first few month titles, and early adopters really had no choice. They were the only decent PS3 exclusives until Heavenly Sword and Warhawk, and then to a greater extent, Ratchet and Uncharted, came out. While people may have greatly enjoyed RFOM (I hope they did), word of mouth on R2 would have been awful. And as I've mentioned, far better FPS have come out since then. R2 did nothing but copy them and lose all originality. Ho-hum. As for MotorStorm, people probably thought "okay, cool, this will pass some time" when they bought it, and didn't enjoy it nearly enough to buy a sequel in holiday 2008, when the PS3 actually had a quality lineup (including, Darth, MGS4!).
Comparing Uncharted to these two is rather foolish on your part. Firstly, Uncharted was pure concentrated awesome, while RFOM was a slightly flawed, though innovative FPS in a gen FULL of FPS, and MotorStorm was a typical *yawn* offroad racer which wasn't particularly good, really. Uncharted 2 has visibly improved on the original, adding multiplayer, received a LOT of coverage due to the awesomeness it is right now, and the awesomeness of the original, it has won numerous awards, and whereas last year's holiday the PS3 was in a bit of a slump, this year, it's on a ROLL, Sony have learned how to advertise, and a rise in the number of gaymers will cause more people to buy it due to Drake's buns (now with 4 times the polygons!) 3.5-4 million + 1 for Seece.
Heavy Rain- I'd like to think it would sell more, but it won't. Sorry, CGI. 700-800k
Yakuza 4- Hold on, Yakuza 3 won't release in the West for at least another year, and Yakuza 4 is "upcoming"? Okay... whatever.
FF Versus 13- WHAT? It's a Final Fantasy. Main series or not, it won't sell less than 3 million. It could come close to 1.8 million FIRST WEEK (okay not quite). 3.5-4 million
Ratchet and Clank ACIT: Similar to Uncharted 2, though to a lesser extent. Sales boost for PS3, huge upgrades over previous iteration, but without the bun boost. I still think you've underpredicted a little. 2-2.25 million.
MAG: Have some faith! It has 256 players and...you're probably right. But I'll be nice and optimistic and say 1-1.5 million.
The Last Guardian: This should sell 20 million, but it won't. SoTC sold 920k in Japan + NA. No EU numbers. ICO, meanwhile, sold 900k, the majority of which was in EU (Wikipedia). Therefore, the least SoTC should logically have sold is 1.7 million. Maybe as high as 2 million, because Europeans are awesome (this is something we can agree on, I'm sure). Anyway, hype, increased popularity of internet, and Team ICO with it, increased sales, yada, yada, 1.5-2 million. Hopefully more.
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GOW 3 --- puh lease kantor. PS3 is not PS2......it is a weak software selling machine in comparison. America is where GOW is mightitest & america is where PS3 is weakest. I've done it a favor by saying it will outsell GOW 2 in america.
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Uncharted 2 --- I am REALLY going to enjoy the crow going around for this game.......3.5 - 4 million......ROFL LMAO
Just because YOU think those games were average/not great doesn't mean everyone thought so. Motrostorm 1 was a great game & AMAZED people who came to play the PS3 at my house so was resistance 1. MANY people found Uncharted 1 not that great too, why do you think I hadn't got it till last week.....because from what I'd hear it wasn't the best PS3 game of 2007 at all.
Ew, you thought MotorStorm was better than Uncharted? I can say with some certainty that you're in the minority.
If Killzone 2......a game hyped since 2005 to hell & back is STRUGGLING to make it past 2 million, I heavily heavily doubt unchared 2.....which is once again a game hyped for grfx a lot is going to make it past the original, let alone nearing MGS4 level sales.
Killzone 2? Really? A game launched in February in a market saturated with shooters, and you're comparing it to Uncharted?
Remember in 2007 PS3 has FEW good games, uncharted 1 was like a big shark in a pool of goldfish ps3 exclusives & multiplats........NOW we had MW2, Assassin's Creed 2, GT5 all coming out back to back.......be assured people will decide to get those games over Uncharted 2 due to brandname alone.
Modern Warfare and AC launched alongside Uncharted, and didn't hurt it much. GT5 is in a completely different genre.
You need to understand that GETTING MORE SALES on the same platform for a sequel of a game released on the same platform is very very difficult, in most cases its historically unprecedented for uncharted 2 to do the sales you are talking about, its looking very foolish kantor.........I have history to back me up, you have high expectations & nothing else.....no other proof.
If Halo and GTA managed it, Uncharted can as well.
Uncharted 2's hype is going through the roof on VGC.....so did LBP's......so did kz2's
Ouch...
NONE of those games matched the sales expectations of PS3 fans (including mine).....do not blame me for being bullish, blame PS3 owners who did not buy those games which result in my expectations of PS3 1st party exclusives not called gran turismo going down the hole.
That makes no sense. What do LBP and KZ2 have to do with this? LBP will cross 3 million, and I've already explained KZ2. Yes, I overpredicted KZ2. I admit that. I was foolish back then.
One final thing, uncharted 2 was bundled last holiday, otherwise it would be at around 2.3 million right now.....see its sales chart & look at a sudden spike last holiday.
Uncharted 2 wasn't out last holiday, but I know what you mean. Was it not bundled with a premium model? If you didn't want Uncharted, you wouldn't get the bundle. And those who got the bundle who got the game, having enjoyed the game, might want to buy the sequel, yes? The original Uncharted, while good, was really nothing out of the ordinary. I greatly enjoyed it, many people didn't. It was overshadowed by more popular games.
Right now, few games are more popular than Uncharted. It won't get to CoD4 level sales, though it might hit AC2 PS3 level. The game has gotten more coverage and more awards than the original, and we have every reason to believe it will outsell the original. If not 3.5-4 million, 3 million at the very least. I will say now that this is my prediction and in no way represents the opinion of Sony fans.
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FF Versus 13 -- Its a FF game? yeh so what.....NO FF SPIN OFF has done 3 million.....nil, zero!
Claiming......ZOMG ZOMG FF GAME HAS TO DO OVER 3 MILLION......is just really stupid
& 1.8 million first week.....my faith in you was completely gone from there......so wait FF Versus 13 will OUTSELL MGS4's first week......yeah right, get real.
Please understand, FF Versus 13 WILL BE SEEN AS A SPIN-OFF by the general public, the poeple who buy games in the west & mostly in Japan too.
They will see FF13 & then FF Versus 13 next to it.....like dirge of cerberus was to FF7, and assume FF Versus 13 is some kind of a spin off.
Please do not overhype this game because in the end because of people like you saying it can do upto 4 million, we PS3 fans yet again get ridiculed for high sales expectations......don't let this happen again!
YET AGAIn.....I have HISTORY of game sales (for gods sake use this websites sales data) to back me up, what do you have, some hope that All PS3 fans will buy FF Versus 13
You don't have to be so insulting about it 
But you're right, so I replace my prediction with "I have no idea"
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R&C:CIT -- Doubt it......even if it deserves too.
Maybe a little under 2 million. But it should outsell ToD, if only because ToD wasn't brilliant by R&C standards. Let's agree to disagree here.
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Finally, why are you just picking on my post?
Because I disagreed with yours the most, and because it is oddly conservative and safe for you. Don't let what the Xbox fanboys will think affect your predictions. They've overpredicted many games in the past, don't worry.
@TT Makaveli
YES I am damn serious, if you expect FF Versus 13 to outsell FF9, FF12......I must ask you, are you serious?
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