Predict WW sales for upcoming PS3 titles

[darthdevidem01]

AbrahamHamdan said:

darthdevidem01 said:

AbrahamHamdan said:

RageBot said:
The reason most Final Fantasy spinoffs don't sell that much is because they are, simply put, not quality games

 

That is a good point RageBot. The reason why the spin-off games don't sell well is because they are mediocre. So versus doesn't have to sell like them if it turns out to be good, which I'm 90% sure it is.

 

darthdevidem01  said:

Secondly: FFX-2 had FAIL written all over it......but how do you know FF Versus 13 doesn't?

 

I Hope not! but:

1) The development staff BLOWS MIND. Watch this video and pay attentions to the staff members' names.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/dks3713-trailer-final-fantasy/43655?type=flv

2) The Huge amount of time they are taking to develop this game. They have started working on it since 2003.

3) It is the only game beside FFXIII that uses the white engine (or Crystal engine).

 

As you can see there is a lot of care given to this game, if those reason don't convince us that this game will be a success, then we cannot be sure if even FFXIII itself would be a success.

Lastly, this generation is unpredictable. Who would have thought that the GT 5 prologue (a glorified demo) would have sold 4 mil, while GT 4 progloue sold like 1.5 mil on a much much higher user base. Maybe the same thing will apply to versus and it will surprise us with its sales.

All I can say now is that the circumstances are different. A lot of things have changed so we can't simply use the information from previous generation and apply it here. 

 

Hope I making sense.

 

That is a good point RageBot. The reason why the spin-off games don't sell well is because they are mediocre. So versus doesn't have to sell like them if it turns out to be good, which I'm 90% sure it is.

Secondly: FFX-2 had FAIL written all over it......but how do you know FF Versus 13 doesn't?

1) The development staff BLOWS MIND. Watch this video and pay attentions to the staff members' names. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/dks3713-trailer-final-fantasy/43655?type=flv

2) The amount of time they are taking to develop this game. They have started working on it since 2003.

3) It is the only game beside FFXIII that uses the white engine (or Crystal engine).

As you can see there is a lot of care given to this game, if those reason couldn't convince us that this game will be a success, then we cannot be sure if even FFXIII itself would be a success.

Lastly, this generation is unpredictable. Who would have thought that the GT 5 prologue (a glorified demo) would have sold 4 mil, while GT 4 progloue sold like 1.5 mil on a much much higher user base. Maybe the same thing will apply to versus and it will surprise us with its sales.

All I can say now is that the circumstances are different. A lot of things have changed so we can't simply use the information from previous generation and apply it here. 

Hope I making sense.

 

 

 

 

FFX-2 also had a MIND BLOWING staff imo

Jsut because YOU thinkt he versus team blows mind doesn't mean no-one thought the FFX-2 team didn't blow everyones mind......as trust me there are people on VGC who HATE Nomura, KH & many of the people in the staff list

As you said circumstances are different & the reality is not favoring PS3 at all......you have cherry picked about GT5:P.....there more things against the console than are going for it in this generation.

Also GT4:Prologue was not bundled & was not out for 2 YEARS before the actual game came......GT4:prologue never released in america too.....so that argument is pretty much null & void, not to mention there was already a GT game out on  PS2 called GT3 when GT4:P came out.

Please do some more research next time

Using GT5:P as a reason to say PS3 can sell SW isn't wise at all......you could have used MGS4.....but even it didn't do MGS2 level sales

@CGI

RPG himself said he expects GT5 to do 1.5 million week 1

it baffles me to see the same person predict FF Versus 13 to have a launch week 500K higher than it.....really baffles me

 

Yes, I'm not absolutely 100% sure that Versus will be a critical success (the same for FFXIII), but is it more likely???? a resounding YES. Why? Because of the reasons I mentioned above. (Great developers, Time and money, Great engine) do you have another opinion?

Do you honestly think that Versus will be like the other mediocre spin-offs like Dirge of Cerberus or Chocobo Racing ?

 

If you think that, then I will understand your low sales predication for it. But if you think that it will receive a praise from the critics, then trust me, a critical acclaim RPG game with Final Fantasy name on it is going to be a monster  in sales, it's that simple, if you could give an example to refute this statement, then I will admit I'm wrong.

Oh and by the way GT4P was bundled. You should do some research next time too ;)

 

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/products/d363ip5a_jpg.html

You are right however about the GT5P.

darthdevidem01  said:

At the same time it surprises me to see Abraham predict FF Versus 13 to have 5 million sales when only 1 PS3 game has got there right now, & its called GTA4

 

 

Keep in mind that by the time FF Versus hit the market,  probably 2011, the PS3 will have a larger user base, so 5 mil might not be achievable for now, but it's going to be possible by then. Am I right?

Anyway, nice talking to you, I have to get back to work.

Abraham…

 

Yes I should do better resarch about GT4, I'm starting to like you abraham!

Versus 13 imo will be like a FF Dissidia/FF 7:CC critical success.......so low - high 80's on metacritic

YEs PS3 userbase will be larger......but larger userbase doesn't mean larger sales automatically.

Remember MGs3, FF12, GT4 all did worse than their prdecessors on PS2 despite it having a larger userbase than when MGS2, FF10 & GT3 launched.

More userbase = more games = more variety = more choices & so can equal less sales due to more choices

It was very nice talking to you too, post often here.....I thought you were a fanboy at first with your versus 13 expectations, but you seem to have backed it up with reasons quite calmly, which imo aren't perfect, but its your opinion.

CYA round VGC