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darthdevidem01 said:
Kantor said:
This should be fun.

Who wants to make the first "360 is doomed!" thread? I think Darth should.

LIES! Kantor is out to get me banned! lol

If you didn't get banned for your "Killzone 2 is a failure" thread, you won't get banned for this.



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Zucas said:
gera4390 said:
Zucas said:
Xbbjf9s said:

@ zucas

The ps3 has dropped the only thing holding it back (price), if you think 360 and wii will do better during the holiday you are sadly mistaken.

If you wish to argue with me based on nothing then you are sadly mistaken.  Either rebutt what I say or don't waste my time. 

People I'm not here to argue what you think the outcome should be.  I'm here to take the thread seriously.  Given all we know about PS3 and 360 going into this holiday season we are trying to figure out who has more bang for their buck.  I'm thinking still right now 360 may have an edge but I'm not saying they have a dominant edge or the edge that is guaranteed to stay 3 weeks from now.  Don't sit here and argue your personal logisitics with me.


ok here is the denotation u make the connotation

PS3 new model slim price drop 299

GT5 to be released in Q4 2009 (very strong rumour).

FF13 will be released in japan with the official  date announced 17.12.2009

is the 6th day since the official release of the PS3 in america and europe and the 4th in japan and the slim has sold more than 500k world wide.

Yes we all understand the potential is there.  I don't think that needs to be restated.  I've stated numerous times with all this potential Sony could even hit their fiscal projections of 13 million.  That would obviously be quite extraordinary. 

However I can't base future sales off of first week sales.  It doesn't suggest anything other than the hype and the want was there.  But even more so first week is more a representation of people who were already looking to get a PS3 and not got to save a $100.  To really gear a holiday season you have to look at future sales in the next 4-8 weeks.  These are the kinds of people who will be buying it during the holiday season.  Those who hadn't necessarily considered a PS3 but have heard of the brand or those who were simply looking for a video game console.  These are who you try to win over in the holiday season.  If Sony continues strong sales for the next 4-8 weeks and is able to maintain it's brand, then the holiday season may be an easy win. Especially in Japan with FFXIII coming out.

But you can't tell that now.  Most certainly GT5 would help the cause but it isn't confirmed yet.  I think eventually I'm going to have to come out and say my 9-10 milllion PS3 FY10 shipment prediction will be too low but I can't base that change off first week of sales.  The potentialy is there for Sony and everything is setup right to have a strong holiday season.  But if you know anything off of sales trends... sometimes it's just not enough.  My biggest thing I have facing Sony right now is brand.  They've taken quite a bit of time in America and now Europe of having Wii and 360 be dominant brands over them.  That is going to be pretty hard to overcome when it comes to those holiday season buyers.  If anything were to stop them especially if GT5 comes out... that would be it.


look I remember that after the release of MGS4 the sales were going in favor of PS3.

it was selling more than X360 because of a game, the way that MS reverted this was with a price cut.

 I think a very very strong game can do these kind of things like MGS4 did, and even forced MS to make a price cut, even though the PS3 was way more expensive than da 360 at the time.

GT5 is the next big game. and FF13 for japan. they're >>>>>>console movers like god of war 3 for example.

and let's see if with the release of the god of war collection this year god of war 3 receives more hype!!



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Zucas said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Zucas said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Zucas said:
Well as quick as that may be, remember what happened in the holiday season last year. PS3 had essentially outsold the 360 all year then the pricecut and the holiday season destroyed that.

With 360 still at better mass market price than PS3, Elite now at $300, ODST, etc. this could potentially stop that when that part of the year comes. Even further with the vastness of the opening start for PS3, one could also argue that the majority have already gotten their PS3 now and that it'll die down even further.

Also trends show that consoles that get big boosts in sales BEFORE the holiday season, don't sell as well in the holiday season. This is actually reminiscent of PS3 going into holiday season 2007 in Japan. 40GB boosted sales early in November and it then went into a holiday season with subpar increases.

I'm not trying to put a damper on any of this, but there are numerous other factors that need to be taken into consideration. Although PS3 may overtake it for a short time, there are a lot of factors also going against PS3. Whether or not the mainstream will still want to pay $100 or $50 more for a PS3, whether or not Uncharted is enough to compete with ODST and New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and whether or not the Slim is going to be all early sales and not much legs.

I think we'll know more of this by October especially when big 3rd party titles start coming out. It's clear that PS3 has a good start and is going to give Wii and 360 some good competition but I'd still say the holiday season is in favor of 360 and Wii right now. But that could obviously change.

But GT5 has been confirmed for 4th Dec

& FF13 has been confirmed for 17th Dec

Really?  Can you show me a link to GT5.  I had not heard.  And yes FF13 but for Japan only. 

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-390445.aspx

Wholesalers in france have been reporting this

Several quotes from Yamauchi (GT creator)....like "GT5 will be out shortly after GT:PSP"....."Its ready to ship in its state"......"ITs closer than you think"

A Handout given at GC2009 said "GT5 = Q4 2009"

basically saying GT5 isn't coming out in 09 is like denying the slim rumors.....SONY will confirm it at TGS

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FF13 (Japan) + GT5 (worldwide) is enough to counter HALO ODST 2 times.......NSMB Wii....not sure

Even if that has a 99% likelihood of being true, it isn't a confirmation. 

 

Now I will play along and state that if GT5 were able to release this year, that would give PS3 its big holiday exclusive it has been lacking in Europe and America.  But once again we don't have a solid confirmation yet.  I do think PS3 would have a bigger holiday if that does fall through.  That is definitely something that would give PS3 and edge over 360 as it is questionable that Forza 3 would be able to compete. 

GT5 is for this year, bundle has been confirmed by SCE

also, outside the Xbox360 arcade low price at 199$, there is just no reason to buy an Xbox360 this year

all people that want to play Halo, have already bought a Xbox360

Xbox360 online is not free and u have no BR

whatever, dont worry, Xbox360 will keep selling because of the casual that want the cheapest

BUT IF Wii drop in price .... then, perhaps, it is gonna be a fabulous Xmas for me watching MS being outsold by so many

fingers crossed for TGS !



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Kantor said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Kantor said:
This should be fun.

Who wants to make the first "360 is doomed!" thread? I think Darth should.

LIES! Kantor is out to get me banned! lol

If you didn't get banned for your "Killzone 2 is a failure" thread, you won't get banned for this.

But that was "okay" as I'm a PS3 fan, so saying I am "disappointed" in a PS3 exclusives sales probably wasn't deemd "trolling"

but doing a "xbox 360 is doomed" one will get a ban ROFL!

don't worry rafichamp or someone will make it



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I was calculating this out and lmao last night. What took the 360 9 months to do may be undone by the PS3 in 3-4 weeks!



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PDF said:
*****Warning to all PS3 fans*****

Please don't make us look stupid with 360 is doomed like comments.

Learn from the past

The 360 is doomed



Munkeh111 said:
PDF said:
*****Warning to all PS3 fans*****

Please don't make us look stupid with 360 is doomed like comments.

Learn from the past

The 360 is doomed


NO!! 360 is so so rapped in the mouth this holidays!!



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libellule said:

GT5 is for this year, bundle has been confirmed by SCE

also, outside the Xbox360 arcade low price at 199$, there is just no reason to buy an Xbox360 this year

all people that want to play Halo, have already bought a Xbox360

Xbox360 online is not free and u have no BR

whatever, dont worry, Xbox360 will keep selling because of the casual that want the cheapest

BUT IF Wii drop in price .... then, perhaps, it is gonna be a fabulous Xmas for me watching MS being outsold by so many

fingers crossed for TGS !

At your first point, provide a link because as far as anyone knows there have been no confirmations.

As for the highlighted portion, I don't usually say this but if you get enjoyment out of watching a console get out sold then you are a very sad individual and I feel sorry for you.



                                           

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gera4390 said:
Munkeh111 said:
PDF said:
*****Warning to all PS3 fans*****

Please don't make us look stupid with 360 is doomed like comments.

Learn from the past

The 360 is doomed


NO!! 360 is so so rapped in the mouth this holidays!!

The 360 is so:

 

 

this holiday.



Funny how gap numbers can change so quickly. 

Oh, lets not forget that in September 2008, 360 closed the same gap from 8 months of being outsold by the PS3 in 3 weeks.  Ironic how things flip and flop back and forth (oh, and I am sure it will happen again in 360's favor).  It will be interesting to see how the holidays pan out.