However no other FPS has a cult following anywhere near that of Halo. Also I expect Halo 3 will top best selling game of all time.

What the hell was that?! I didn't realize that Mr. Sesslers happiness was tethered to whether or not someone likes Halo or not. Telling people to shove their Bleeps in their mouth so that they can get some satisfaction? You're kidding right? What was he so damn hostile about? The game has sold 6 million copies. It's not like there is some movement to destroy the Halo series' legacy. He looks like Bill Oreilly talking about the phony war on Christmas. While he certainly has a right to his opinion, I have no respect for this guy, or anyone else on G4, as game reviewers. They are just as biased and opinionated as any fanboy when it comes to their favorite franchises. Probably more so considering that they are constantly bombarded with swag from the developers. I mean the initial reviews of Lair that I saw on Xplay were glowing with praise. I have resorted to looking at reviews written by actual owners of the game on amazon, and forums like this one, to find good honest feedback on a game. I guess what irks me about the soapbox clip is that Mr. Sessler thinks he can speak to people like that just because they don't like a game? Guy is on a TV show based on his opinions. He gives us his email address so that he can read our comments on his opinions. Then he bitches because people made comments that he didn't like..... Does anyone else think the guys being just a bit melodramatic?

First, I'll start off by apologizing for my last, terribly written, post. I had some jackhole at work who insisted on talking to me and I completely lost track of what I was saying. 

I would argue that Halo is epic; it has large-scale undertones, engaging enemies, and a story that involves much more than just Master Chief. After all, you are part of a larger galactic conflict and for the time, Bungie did a good job of giving the player wide-open areas in which to roam. I won't argue that the levels had a tendency to be repetitive; shit, even Bungie admitted that afterward.

While some people argue that Halo is revolutionary, I won't. It was more of an evolution of FPS games onto consoles and it was the first shining example that FPS games could have good controls on the more accessible console instead of just PC. The same could be said of its multiplayer.

As for "deep", I wouldn't call Halo deep, but I do enjoy the story considerably, the same as I do Star Wars or any other myriad of films scoffed at by Academy members. Again, I'm not quite sure what "deep" exactly is and that was part of my point. Is it inner conflict? Outside conflict? Surprise twists? Or just a solid story that's well told? There is no correct answer to this which is why I had problems with you stating that Halo was not "deep". I've had loads of people tell me something is "deep" only to realize that all they consider deep is a confusing plotline that is extremely poorly told and completely cliched. You can take any handful of supposedly brilliant anime series/films and you'll see hordes of fanboys drooling over them and talking about how deep/brilliant/thought-provoking they are, much like you see the same for Halo in threads like these. Are they right? Maybe, but it's all a matter of opinion. I've also heard people talk about how stupid films like 2001 are, a movie that amazes me as much the twentieth time as it did the first. Who's right? Who's more qualified to say what is deep and what is not?

So, in short, pretty much anything that cannot be quantified by physical means, especially matters regarding art and entertainment, are entirely peoples' opinions, especially when large groups of people feel so strongly for and against each side of the argument.

Halo does not have a CULT following.  It is popular with the mainstream (read: CASUAL) gaming community.  There are whole frats who don't play any games other than their Madden and Halo LAN parties.  I am not knocking Halo.  But it is definitely not a cult following.  Cult games are more like Katamari, Ico, stuff like that.  Big followings, but still under the radar.

And there is no way in hell that Halo 3 will sell more than Pokemon Red/Green/Blue.  That sold over 30 million, and the 360 might not even sell that many.  Neither the XBox nor the GameCube did.  I don't even think Halo 3 will outsell Super Mario World or even Nintendogs (14.92 million).

You can't say "fact" after something to make it true.  Fact.

Ok so Star Wars is not a cult following? Halo merchandise at the moment is outselling Harry potter merchandise. Also look at the amount of Machinama. People devoting their entire lives to Halo? People make life size weapons of the AR5 and full Masterchief costumes out of Metal. It's definately a cult following. I wouldnt be surprised if some nutter starts some wierd Halo religion. You quoted ny post but I dont see no fact on it? That was my post before on a different matter. fact

My problems with Sessler's arguments from the video:



1) "Halo 1 was so revolutionary in finally having an FPS that good on a console."

Nope. You're talking about GoldenEye on the N64. Rare beat Bungie to the punch by 3 years.

(In my opinion, part of the reason MicroSoft bought Rare and Bungie was because they think FPS games are the most popular genre in their target demographic. This is why they also made sure to get exclusives out of Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 on the old XBox. They wanted to make it a shooter box to steal that demographic before the 360 came out, so that games like Halo 3 could sell gazillions. They know what they're doing, but I digress.)

2) "The control scheme has not been beaten ON A CONSOLE."

Ooh nice try with that "on a console," but you're still wrong. Metroid Prime 3.

(I know it's not multiplayer, so it may be awkward comparing them, but comparing control efficiency only, Metroid is more efficient and immersive, in that it's closer to emulating keyboard and mouse or real guns.)

3) "Shove your **** in your mouth so I don't have to hear you anymore and you can finally get some satisfaction."

I put my **** in my mouth like you said, but it wasn't satisfying. It's like trying to tickle myself. It just doesn't work. Now I'm just sitting here bored looking like a dumbass with my **** all wet. Fuck you Sessler.

 See: hyperbole.  Your understanding of literary devices seems to be a tad limited.

Major Ninty fanboyism.

Playing Goldeneye now and Perfect Dark for that matter is horrible control wise. And Metroid prime 3 is only better if you like Motion sensing. Personally Analogs are far more natural for FPS. Halo reveolutionised the controls on a pad.

Yes goldeneye was great, i still never had the feel like i first picked up halo on the 360 controller, so technically goldeneye may of had it done in terms of gameplay, but in terms of control on controler, then halo wins in my opinion

2. Metroid is a mater of opinion, just like halo is, ive heard it can be good, and bad controls

3 Lol