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"But you would still be arguing with their decision regardless of their explanation."

Stop pretending you can peer into an alternate reality. You can't. You're just doing that to pretend our arguments are not legit by claiming "you'd do this no matter what". Don't try that crap here.



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Let's just sum up, shall we?


Wii haters, "Here are the (x number of) reasons Wii isn't getting Tekken"

Wii owners, "Stupid excuses are still stupid."




When a valid excuse is stated from Namco, let me know. Until then, all this stuff about the controls and the screen resolution are just inanely silly.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"No. The PSP has shown it can support a traditional fighter."

So has the Wii. It's called the games on the VC.

I don't really think that counts, but the fact you think it does is funny. You could have done better by listing TvC. Thing is, I played that at a friend's house on a Wiimote, and it was ass. We then powered off the Wii and played SF IV instead.

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LordTheNightKnight said:
"I've been saying this for a very, VERY long time"

And it's been bullshit every since the 16-bit days.

The other systems are getting the games that I want, while the system I own isn't getting the games I want. I should therefore get the other systems so I can play what I want.

I sense no bullshit in there. In fact, I say it's bullshit that since you DON'T get the games you want, all you do is complain more and more everytime you get overshadowed and then bitch about it like you didn't see it coming. Just like Kylie said, how many times do you have to be overlooked before you decide to stop complaining and get the system that has what you obviously want?

Oh that's right, you believe that since the Wii is the market leader, all the games should magically end up on it? FYI, marketshare isn't the only factor that leads to where games go. You should follow trends, not just hardware sales. If the 360 only had 10M units, and the Wii had 100M units in consumer homes, yet the 360 version of a game sold truckloads while the Wii version is lucky to break even, where do you think the games (at least the ones that really matter) will go?



Viper1 said:
Look at his first argument. Arcade ports. he talked of hardware limitations being a major problem and reason why it shouldn't be on Wii yet the fact a PSP version exists nullifies that position entirely.

I just don't think people have the same standards for a portable version of the game as they would for the home console version. I'm not necessairly saying the Wii shouldn't get or can't handle a version of Tekken 6, I just that I don't think it's viable from a business standpoint. The only reason I mention hardware limitations would be a factor is because the 360/PS3 versions will look and play better, so most people with more than one console would opt for either the 360/PS3 versions over the Wii since it won't have motion controls (like Tiger Woods 10 etc. etc.) to improve on gameplay to attract sales. (fyi motion controls are the last thing traditional fighters need nobody that plays fighting games wants them.) The market for Tekken 6 on the Wii seems limited to people that only own a Wii and are okay with its control scheme - I think that's too small to support a Tekken 6 port. Street Fighter IV/Blazblue/KoFXII/SCIV amongst others have ensured a large portion of the fighting game audience already owns a PS3/360, so that very important demographic isn't going to buy the Wii version. I just don't see the a healthy market for the game on the Wii - that's all.

And for the record, I don't hate the Wii - it was my first console this gen and I've spent more time with it than my 360 and have enjoyed more Nintendo IPs this gen that Sony or Microsoft IPs. If it wasn't for SFIV/Blazblue, I'd have spent the most time on my Wii. I just happen to like and play fighting games, and I just don't think the Wii is a console that can support a traditional fighter. At least from what I can tell, a lot of the dissenters seem to play fighters as well, while most of the supporters don't and just own a Wii. In other words, the people most likely to buy Tekken 6 don't think a Wii version can be succesful. The people not likely to buy it do.

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I wonder how much of this is brought on by

-- the meaning of the quotes being lost (unintentionally or otherwise) in translation
-- the perception that the segment of the Wii user base most interested in the game also has an HD console
-- the fact that the Wii fighter category is dominated by SSBB and two exclusive titles are set to be released (in NA with one already out in JP).
-- the fact that three years after release and with a 49% market share, companies still use double-talk about the Wii.

By the way, given that Namco did We Ski and We Ski and Snowboard aimed at the BB market, it probably is not a specialized controller issue.

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PS -- I would grouse much less -- probably just saying it is that company's loss -- if they were honest. And the more I think about it, the less I would grouse as time goes by. These are business decisions. They should be treated as such and explained as such -- not with BS.



      


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axumblade said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

"But you would still be arguing with their decision regardless of their explanation."

Stop pretending you can peer into an alternate reality. You can't. You're just doing that to pretend our arguments are not legit by claiming "you'd do this no matter what". Don't try that crap here.

Then stop pretending that you have insight in Namco's decision making. ;)


He isn't; he's taking what they said, and comparing it to reality.  Which is considerably more possible to do.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"And I still don't understand why you would argue for a game that you don't want at all. In fact, I don't think anybody in the thread seems to even want Tekken on the Wii so I don't see the point of arguing about it."

The the mentality for not putting it on the Wii. It's that the same mentality has kept many good games from the Wii when there is no excuse for them not being on it. The developers are just being stupid.

Now not every game works on the Wii, but this isn't one of those.

So the thread is about that after all. Mindblowing, how could I have guessed. The hardware faults in the 360 are MS' fault, the lackluster sales and loss of exclusives is Sony's fault (I'm not being hypothetical here, I mean that) but everything negatvie surrounding the Wii is only developers fault and not in any way Nintendo's?

Absolutely amazing, no matter what the thread is about or not, that is absolutely amazing. (Kind of magical like PSP only being compared to DS).



Pyro as Bill said:
Does Wii have an audience for fighting games?

It's not like it has the best selling fighter of all time or anything....oops.

Maybe that is the real problem.  Heck, SSBB isn't only the best selling fighting game, but IMHO it's the best fighting game ever made.



 

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Mummelmann said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"And I still don't understand why you would argue for a game that you don't want at all. In fact, I don't think anybody in the thread seems to even want Tekken on the Wii so I don't see the point of arguing about it."

The the mentality for not putting it on the Wii. It's that the same mentality has kept many good games from the Wii when there is no excuse for them not being on it. The developers are just being stupid.

Now not every game works on the Wii, but this isn't one of those.

So the thread is about that after all. Mindblowing, how could I have guessed. The hardware faults in the 360 are MS' fault, the lackluster sales and loss of exclusives is Sony's fault (I'm not being hypothetical here, I mean that) but everything negatvie surrounding the Wii is only developers fault and not in any way Nintendo's?

Absolutely amazing, no matter what the thread is about or not, that is absolutely amazing. (Kind of magical like PSP only being compared to DS).


So, what are you saying?  That it's impossible for third parties to have done anything wrong?  And who said "everything" negative wasn't Nintendo's fault? 



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