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Many people act like it is a crippling flaw. It's almost to the point where people think that the lack of cross game voice chat is worse than the 360's reliability problem. Reality check please.



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BHR-3 said:
aher052 said:

Yes it has been confirmed!

What we have been waiting for, for a VERY long time

 

Microsoft has announced their elite model to be $299 as of sep 1st! thats a $100 price drop

Goodbye Ps3 Goodbye Wii

The real genearation has begun

i dont get it man

how will the elite being the same price and not including hdmi cables outsell the ps3?

bad news for 360 fans the arcade stays 200$ thats only a 100 price gap between ps3 and arcade in 2007 ps3 beat the 360 during the holidays wen the price gap was 120$ between cheapest ps3 and cheapest 360 imagine wat it will do now that its olny 100$

if some1 had 300$ to spend on a HD console i think the majority would pick the ps3 slim this holiday season free bluray and online and built in rechargable contoller

 

it doesnt matter wat the elite costs the mass of 360 salses last holiday season was the arcade b/c it was 200$ cheaper so they would save a ton by not buying the ps3 now that its only 100$ savings, but with the ps3 ull get a 120HDD and all the rest of the stuff the arcade is messing that the ps3 has

with thtis data i dont see the 360 outselling the ps3 for awhile let alone the wii

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AoiRayn said:

When I look at them side by side, this is what I get
(the rest is pretty much the same)

PS3 slim ($299):

- Free Internet (PSN) (mostly same features as XBL, execpt cross game voice, which is rumored being worked on)
- Blu-Ray
- Controller (no batteries needed)
- Web Browser

- HDD Replacement
- Smaller

Xbox Elite ($299)

- Better Internet (although it cost $50 a year to play online)
- Free Headset

I didn't include exclusives games, since both system have equal and great exclusives!
So in the end, Xbox will be the more expensive one, where you have to either buy batteries,
or rechargeable batteries if you want wireless, and that you have to pay, to play.

A Blu-Ray player also cost quite much ($150 +/-) which is included with the PS3.
It's a shame that a headset is not included, but the Blu-Ray player covers that up, and much more!
In my opinion, PlayStation 3 is still a winner, when it comes to most value for the money.

Both consoles is great in their own ways though, but I seriously think Microsoft should cut out that $50 yearly cost for internet.
That's utter crap, making their customers pay even more to play their games online..

edit: okay, so it's no free hdmi cable for the new elite, that kinda makes it even less valuable compared to PS3 slim, but it's still a great console nontheless.


Isn't built-in wi-fi a big bonus for the PS3? Being that it cost £50.00 (or whatever in US$).



this is going to be an interesting holiday season sales. NAs economy is picking up, japan will surely dominated by sony...



The 360 has already been available at a much lower price than the competition for a long, long time and cutting the price of the most expensive model won't work miracles like the last time when they cut all the SKU's at once.
The Elite will certainly sell more but the impact won't be nearly big enough for it to ever be able to touch the Wii in hardware sales.



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justinian said:
AoiRayn said:

When I look at them side by side, this is what I get
(the rest is pretty much the same)

PS3 slim ($299):

- Free Internet (PSN) (mostly same features as XBL, execpt cross game voice, which is rumored being worked on)
- Blu-Ray
- Controller (no batteries needed)
- Web Browser

- HDD Replacement
- Smaller

Xbox Elite ($299)

- Better Internet (although it cost $50 a year to play online)
- Free Headset

I didn't include exclusives games, since both system have equal and great exclusives!
So in the end, Xbox will be the more expensive one, where you have to either buy batteries,
or rechargeable batteries if you want wireless, and that you have to pay, to play.

A Blu-Ray player also cost quite much ($150 +/-) which is included with the PS3.
It's a shame that a headset is not included, but the Blu-Ray player covers that up, and much more!
In my opinion, PlayStation 3 is still a winner, when it comes to most value for the money.

Both consoles is great in their own ways though, but I seriously think Microsoft should cut out that $50 yearly cost for internet.
That's utter crap, making their customers pay even more to play their games online..

edit: okay, so it's no free hdmi cable for the new elite, that kinda makes it even less valuable compared to PS3 slim, but it's still a great console nontheless.


Isn't built-in wi-fi a big bonus for the PS3? Being that it cost £50.00 (or whatever in US$).

Oh, not fully known to the xbox's features, thought it had that.
Well, wow, microsoft really do rip people off :P



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BHR-3 said:

i dont get it man

how will the elite being the same price and not including hdmi cables outsell the ps3?

Same way in did 2007, only then the difference was merely $50 instead of $0 and blu-ray players weren't cheap, which they are now, so while the price difference is smaller, so is the inherant value of blu-ray compared to 2 years ago...and if WI-Fi and free online were never an issue before, i doubt the ever will be.

The PS3's biggest issue, like the Gamecube is less so much price (at least now) as it is content, it lacks the blockbuster games:

Check it

360 has the #1&2 spots for most anticipated games this year. Ratchet & Uncharted 2 didn't even make the top 20.

It's nice that the PS3 can play online for free, but the thing is, people want to play Halo/Gears/L4D/CoD online, for free (only the last is applicable to PS3) . Not Resistance and Mag.

 

 



Some people just can't get over that Microsoft charges for their internet service. This has been happening ever since Live started last gen, so can we all get over it now? Talk about old news...



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

I would like to think this thread is nothing but parody. However I also know that stupidity is strong with the forums as of late. The truth is that too many members have overblown expectations. See the thing is that pricing is only part of the equation, and with the prices being equal it isn't really a question of one having far more value then the other.

I know members list off features, but the truth is they are actually quite minor differences, because those features are hardly necessary or desired by the public at large.

Hard Drive swapping it really is great for the PS3, but you actually don't need it for the 360. There are no mandatory installs. Without web surfing it doesn't even need a web browser. So a little goes a very long way, and if you need to delete something large you can get it back later for free.

Wireless controllers you know honestly I don't like buying batteries in bulk. However there are a lot of gamers that think it is better then sliced bread. They want to play from anywhere in the house, and ironically you can do it from outside the house two. I have actually done it. I do like the charging system Microsoft uses. They should include that instead of a HDMI cable in my own opinion.

Web surfing on the console. You know I am just going to say it we don't need that. Most of us have a computer, and if you have high speed access and no computer your just a fool. I say if you find your predominantly using a console to surf then you would have been better off buying a laptop. You can actually take them to other places.

BluRay still isn't anywhere approaching a necessity. Most people don't have definition televisions yet. Let alone have ones that go up to 1080p. Oh and that isn't going to somehow take off this year. Most people will opt for 720p with a bigger screen, and you know honestly I can't find that I disagree with them.

Cross game chat oh I was really impressed with this about five years ago. You know when we had things like teamspeak and ventrillo for PC gaming. I am still confused why all manufacturers don't have this. You don't even need to create a dedicated server for it. Anyway hardly a major feature.

You know none of the shit you are going to hype isn't really all that relevant to your average guy in the street. These are features really only relevant to the hardest core of gamers, and they have already made up their minds and purchased their console.



RAZurrection said:
BHR-3 said:

i dont get it man

how will the elite being the same price and not including hdmi cables outsell the ps3?

Same way in did 2007, only then the difference was merely $50 instead of $0 and blu-ray players weren't cheap, which they are now, so while the price difference is smaller, so is the inherant value of blu-ray...and if WI-Fi and free online were never an issue before, i doubt the ever will be.

The PS3's biggest issue, like the Gamecube is less so much price as it is content, it lacks the blockbuster games:

Check it

360 has the #1&2 spots for most anticipated games this year. Ratchet & Uncharted 2 didn't even make the top 20.

It's nice that the PS3 can play online for free, but the thing is, people want to play Halo/Gears/L4D/CoD online, for free (only the last is applicable to PS3) . Not Resistance and Mag.

 

 


       Yeah well GT5 will outsell Forza 3 10 to 1 in Japan and Final Fantasy XIII will break 2 million in Japan alone exclusively on PS3 during the holiday season.

      The PS3 outsold the 360 during Holiday 2007 with Uncharted and Ratchet while the 360 had Mass Effect and Halo 3 and ODST isn't going to be as big as Halo 3.