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SlorgNet on 11 October 2007
elendar said:

"And now Bungie, the crown jewel, is leaving Microsoft. That speaks volumes about Microsoft's stagnant company culture, its inability to be anything other than just another giant corporate monopolist -- like AT&T, only with better marketing." ~ Bungie leaving Microsoft could be a good thing. Giving a developer creative independence is often the most successful option. Perhaps Microsoft understands this. The rest of your statement was pure bias opinion. Point Dismissed. "It's depressing, because I really wanted someone to keep Sony honest at the high end of the market. Someone else will have to do the job - maybe Samsung." ~ Keeping Sony honest? Its not the job of other companies it is the job of the consumer and regulatory entities. Point Dismissed.

 

The 360's hardware omissions, male-dominated-game-roster and general unreliability are not a matter of opinion. They are facts, the result of management decisions taken by Microsoft, and they've got to take responsibility and admit they need to evolve their business model and drastically improve their quality control. 

There's no good way to spin Bungie's exit from Microsoft. We're not talking some obscure studio, this is the only significant mega-franchise Microsoft had in the only genre they've managed to excel in. If they can't keep that together, they stay exactly what they've been all along - a niche player in the industry. Which isn't good for gaming. 



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white devil on 11 October 2007
Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
white devil said:
The logic is definitely sound. How can any of you not understand it? It's like this. In France and Spain, the PS3 outsells the 360 by about 1000 each a week. So the 360 = doomed in Europe. Of course, the PS3 is outselling the 360 by a massive 10 - 1 ratio on average in Japan, so 360 = doomed. Of course, we don't need to talk about America, where the 360 has just outsold the PS3 by 100,000 units this week. America isn't the world, Americans are arrogant to think they matter the most. People should look at Spain and Finland and stuff. Then you can see how the PS3 is totally winning.

But when it is far and way the largest market on Earth, it is the most important. That's just common sense.

You can combine all the Finlands, Switzerlands, New Zealands, etc. you want and they won't even scratch the surface of the American market.

It goes like this:

NA>>Japan>>UK>>>>>>Germany/France>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everybody else.


I think he was being sarcastic...

 

Wasn't he?


 To clarify for the 4 ppl that didn't get it, yes, I was being sarcastic. I wanted to point out the idiotic logic behind overemphasising miniscule markets like Spain while ignoring the US or for that matter, the UK which makes up nearly half of the PAL console market.



elendar on 12 October 2007
SlorgNet said:
elendar said:

"And now Bungie, the crown jewel, is leaving Microsoft. That speaks volumes about Microsoft's stagnant company culture, its inability to be anything other than just another giant corporate monopolist -- like AT&T, only with better marketing." ~ Bungie leaving Microsoft could be a good thing. Giving a developer creative independence is often the most successful option. Perhaps Microsoft understands this. The rest of your statement was pure bias opinion. Point Dismissed. "It's depressing, because I really wanted someone to keep Sony honest at the high end of the market. Someone else will have to do the job - maybe Samsung." ~ Keeping Sony honest? Its not the job of other companies it is the job of the consumer and regulatory entities. Point Dismissed.

The 360's hardware omissions, male-dominated-game-roster and general unreliability are not a matter of opinion. They are facts, the result of management decisions taken by Microsoft, and they've got to take responsibility and admit they need to evolve their business model and drastically improve their quality control.

There's no good way to spin Bungie's exit from Microsoft. We're not talking some obscure studio, this is the only significant mega-franchise Microsoft had in the only genre they've managed to excel in. If they can't keep that together, they stay exactly what they've been all along - a niche player in the industry. Which isn't good for gaming.


I tried to spin Bungie well. :

Slimebeast on 12 October 2007

The thread maker talks about a 4 year life cycle and only 20 mill X360's sold. Just forget that nonsence.

2007 is the X360's best year so far, and it will have sold 7-8 mill units world wide, so X360 by end of year 2007: -----> a minimum of 15 million consoles sold since launch.

2008: the X360 will reach mass market price point á la $250-300 and we know it will be a great year for gaming with GTA4, Star Wars Unleased, Fallout 3, Alan Wake etc - so expect +8 million X360's sold. -----> 23 million since launch.

2009: 7 mill? 9 mill? We don't have any idea, but minimum: ----> 30 million since launch.

2010: the X360's 5th full year, but even if the X360 is dying expect 6 mill: ----> 36 mill minimum since launch

2011: is according to general expectation the last year of this gen (and might be the first full year for an Xbox 3), but MS won't abandon the X360, so expect at least some 5 mill sold due to great game library of games & price at $150: ----> 40 mill X360's minimum since launch.

Personally I expect significantly bigger numbers for the X360 and a total around 50 million consoles sold by 2011.



selnor on 12 October 2007

Very wierd take on the subject Mr Money. The longer PS3 doesnt sell, the harder it is for Sony to have exclusive 3rd party games. I think at the mo, it doesnt look great for the Sony camp. If by spring 2008 they still sell slow, then 360 is looking very comfortable.