ps1 games cost about 1million to make, 5 million for ps2, wii cost about 7 and ps3/360 cost 8-60 (killzone)millionto make
ps1 games cost about 1million to make, 5 million for ps2, wii cost about 7 and ps3/360 cost 8-60 (killzone)millionto make
FishyJoe said:
Well there is that big fat licensing deal Epic got from Sony. Of course a sweetheart deal like that wouldn't bias them at all... |
Exactly!
Sony will work with them, MS will throw money at them and Nintnedo offers what ?
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I remeber thinking about the same thing, i was so jelous when one of my friends got a dreamcast, damn him and crazy taxi, but every time i came into play the demo unit there didnt seem to be any new games, though i still remeber dreamcast comercials.... always wanted to demo that seaman game or what ever it was called
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My local EB over the last week have doubled their Wii shelf space. It now has as much space as the 360 & DS.
The PSP has been relegated to the back of the store, and the PS3 is the only console with the "half-space" that the Wii used to have.
The PS2 still wins with 1.5x the space of the 360, Wii & DS.
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I would say this is a pretty strong indication of what is happening now, and what is about to happen in the near future.
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So people are playing "who has the best lineup" again are they?
Try this - use a points system. Something like this:
+2pt for each title
+1pt for each console exclusive title
+1pt for each known brand name title
+2pts for each known gaming name title
+2..100pts for each "mega-hit" gaming name title (aka Halo)
+1pt for each hyped title
+2pts for each ultra-hyped title
+1pt for each title published by platform holder
+2pts for each title that opens a "new" genre (hardware selling?)
Points for casual titles? Points for new hardware/peripherals? Points for sequel to "big selling" title?
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Words can not describe how miserable this thread is.
Go on, insult me.
Legend11 said:
1)Ok for starters lets come to an agreement on what quality titles means. To me they mean titles that aren't low budget crap, cheap minigames, or ports of old Playstation 2 games. Do you agree? 2)The 360 has about 160 quality third party titles for next year, that's announced games, the Wii has about 79 titles but if you filter out first party, budget titles, and ports of 2-3 year old Playstation 2 games you're left with about 50. Now your statement says that you expect the Wii to have about twice as many quality titles as the 360 means that going just by what we know now, it'll need about 270 additional quality third party games for next year in order to make your statement true for 2008. Do you really believe that 270 quality games are going to be announced for release next year? 3)Also I did make one mistake I thought you were only talking about 2008, I guess things could be radically different for 2009, maybe third parties will start making tons of money on the Wii and Nintendo won't take the lion's share of game sales on it so they'll put all their quality titles on it instead of trying to cash in with lucrative low budget titles, anything can happen I guess. Also titles can be delayed, but my numbers assume that nothing new for it will be announced for it for release in 2008. I'm sure there will be at least a few other games announced. 4)Oh and don't get me wrong, I firmly believe the Wii will have a lot more games released for it next year than the 360, but I also believe that a significant amount of it won't be quality (as in the Wii will have at least 30-40% of it's releases being crap). |
1)Quality to me means that a game is fun and is executed well with a reasonable degree of polish, this doesn't necesarily mean that they have to cost a lot but more often than not this will turn out to be the case. For instance I believe RRR to be a quality title though you may not as it is based around mini-games. I would also call RE4 a quality title even though it is years old as it greatly benefits from the Wii's interface making the game a better gaming experience though by your definitions you disagree.
2)As I said before, I based my prediction over '08' and '09' so no I don't think it highly likely that Wii will do that much catching up by the end of '08' but wouldn't rule it out entirely. It all really depends on how quickly devs are jumping to Wii and at the moment all we can do is speculate though notice MH3 was just announced by Capcom, that's another bite out of 360's lead! Also I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt in regards to your announced quality titles for the 2 platforms, I could very well look at the lineups and come up with very different numbers.
3)So we are on the same page at least to some degree. You accept that at some point it is possible 3rd parties will start moving to Wii, the only real difference is that I'm giving a time frame of '08'-'09' whereas you are giving one of '09'+. I would also be pretty surprised if MH3 wasn't slated for late '08'.
4) I agree that a big chunk of Wii's lineup will be trash but that is the case for any console. At the end of the day if Wii continues to outperform it's rivals the way it has been it is simly logical to expect the majority of 3rd party support. Massive userbase plus cheap development relative to the other platforms means it's a no-brainer for companies who's primary aim is to make profit, I don't think you need a Masters in Economics to realise this.
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Whatever happens... we can add MH3 to the Wii lineup ('08?), and take it away from the PS3 lineup.
Perfect example of "this thread in action" right there...
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