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Munkeh111 on 29 July 2009
Squilliam said:
No, PC games X Y and Z are the graphics kings. Oops I forgot A, B, C, D, E as well.

Read his second post, and in my house, it will be the graphics king



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Wass on 29 July 2009
Squilliam said:
CGI-Quality said:
Squilliam said:
CGI-Quality said:

Again, how do their sales coincide? Alan Wake is coming in the Spring of 2010, is a new IP, and IS NOT in the same genre as Uncharted 2. How do they relate, at all, besides fiscals? And even with fiscals, so? Killzone 2 came in the same fiscal as Gears 2, did it compete with it in sales? I don't think so...

He made the connection, ask him.

In any case Gears and Killzone 2 both have a connection as games with massive hype coming out of E3 2005. One became a symbol of Xbox 360 success, and the other became a symbol of something else for the PS3.

Killzone 2 was a success even if it didn't perform to OUR standards. It's still seen as the best looking game right now on consoles, shifted 750,000 in it's first few days on the market, and helped spike the PS3 that week. It's nothing to write home about, but it did fine.

The best looking console games right now are infact 2d because it doesn't take much performance or effort to perfect with modern technology.

Killzone 2 = Graphical effort != sales.

Killzone 2 = Sony being late in releasing key software.

Killzone 2 = Hyped game which became forgettable within a few months.

 


Not forgettable at all, its multiplayer rocks. But the controls turned off a lot of people :(

 

But i like the controls very much ^^



Slimebeast on 29 July 2009
Wass said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
Since the PS3 don't have much else this year Uncharted 2 will easily be GOTY for PS3 unless you include multiplatforms, because if you do it's going to be Assassin's Creed II guaranteed and possibly CoD 6 as a nominee.

I wonder if Uncharted II can outsell Alan Wake, it's gonna be an interesting battle in the long run.

It's THESE kinds of statements that always make me shake my head....Ummm, inFAMOUS and Killzone 2 are chopped liver? What about Demon's Souls, or Ratchet & Clank? The PS3, so far, has actually seen plenty of games this year exclusive to it.

I don't follow what you're saying, at all! And Alan Wake is coming out at a whole entire different period. How do their sales even coincide?

Also, I find it interesting that people, who normally do nothing but bash Sony and the PS3, frequent these kinds of threads.


Hey, there's a lot less Xbox fans visiting Sony threads than vice versa. The last Alan Wake thread was infested with haters that downplayed everything about it. I'm just trying to be an equalizer.

Infamous is not a big game, it will barely sell a million. It's very far from being GOTY material. And while Ratchet may be a popular & nice game, it's in the same class with Banjo Kazoi and Viv Pinata, nothing you mention in GOTY discussions.

So besides Uncharted II there's only KZ2 that will be a contender for PS3 GOTY 2009. But not only was KZ2 released very early in the year, which gives it a natural disadvantage among voters, but I am very confident that Uncharted II will be praised more and win GOTY without much effort.

As for Alan Wake vs Uncharted II, what does it matter if they release ½ year apart? Both are important and hyped exclusives, both have a lot of movie influences (the music, story telling structure etc), both have adventure, action and explorer elements. Both cater to the mainstream action game players. And they are predicted to sell around 3 million each. I think it's a very interesting matchup, and my internal goal is that Alan Wake will beat Uncharted II in sales.

What else on PS3 would you match up against Alan Wake? Certainly not Heavy Rain anymore, anyone should realize by now that Heavy Rain will be slain in sales.


Maybe GT5 gets released this year? Could it get GOTY if so?

Of course GT5 would become the biggest favorite, even to win the GOTY overall for all platforms. It might be out before Christmas in Japan, but there's zero chance it will release in the West because GT always comes out in Japan 2-3 months before the West. And to be nominated for a GOTY a game has to be released in the West the same year.

 



libellule on 29 July 2009
Slimebeast said:
Since the PS3 don't have much else this year Uncharted 2 will easily be GOTY for PS3 unless you include multiplatforms, because if you do it's going to be Assassin's Creed II guaranteed and possibly CoD 6 as a nominee.

I wonder if Uncharted II can outsell Alan Wake, it's gonna be an interesting battle in the long run.


LOL

seriously, Alan wake spring 2010 VS Uncharted Xmas 2009

Uncharted wins by KO

 



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Dgc1808 on 29 July 2009
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
Since the PS3 don't have much else this year Uncharted 2 will easily be GOTY for PS3 unless you include multiplatforms, because if you do it's going to be Assassin's Creed II guaranteed and possibly CoD 6 as a nominee.

I wonder if Uncharted II can outsell Alan Wake, it's gonna be an interesting battle in the long run.

It's THESE kinds of statements that always make me shake my head....Ummm, inFAMOUS and Killzone 2 are chopped liver? What about Demon's Souls, or Ratchet & Clank? The PS3, so far, has actually seen plenty of games this year exclusive to it.

I don't follow what you're saying, at all! And Alan Wake is coming out at a whole entire different period. How do their sales even coincide?

Also, I find it interesting that people, who normally do nothing but bash Sony and the PS3, frequent these kinds of threads.


Hey, there's a lot less Xbox fans visiting Sony threads than vice versa. The last Alan Wake thread was infested with haters that downplayed everything about it. I'm just trying to be an equalizer.

Infamous is not a big game, it will barely sell a million. It's very far from being GOTY material. And while Ratchet may be a popular & nice game, it's in the same class with Banjo Kazoi and Viv Pinata, nothing you mention in GOTY discussions.

So besides Uncharted II there's only KZ2 that will be a contender for PS3 GOTY 2009. But not only was KZ2 released very early in the year, which gives it a natural disadvantage among voters, but I am very confident that Uncharted II will be praised more and win GOTY without much effort.

As for Alan Wake vs Uncharted II, what does it matter if they release ½ year apart? Both are important and hyped exclusives, both have a lot of movie influences (the music, story telling structure etc), both have adventure, action and explorer elements. Both cater to the mainstream action game players. And they are predicted to sell around 3 million each. I think it's a very interesting matchup, and my internal goal is that Alan Wake will beat Uncharted II in sales.

What else on PS3 would you match up against Alan Wake? Certainly not Heavy Rain anymore, anyone should realize by now that Heavy Rain will be slain in sales.

1) I disagree... I see loads of MS fans in the SONY forums these days. How would I know??? I rarely even glance at the MS Forums...

2) inFamous scored higher on IGN and Gamespot than Uncharted 1 did. This site has inFamous at 631K sales with just the first 4 weeks. Judging by your game collection, I don't even think you have the system needed to play inFamous...

3) Why is it that every thread has to turn into a sales discussion??? When GT5's the talk, we have to compare it to predicted Forza 3 sales...
When it's FF13, we gotta compare predicted sales of the two platform versions... KEEP IT IN THE SALES DISCUSSION. This thread was about graphics. What's the point of the sales forum anymore?

4) Heavy Rain will be slain in sales??? I think you're in the wrong forum... 



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libellule on 29 July 2009
Dgc1808 said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
Since the PS3 don't have much else this year Uncharted 2 will easily be GOTY for PS3 unless you include multiplatforms, because if you do it's going to be Assassin's Creed II guaranteed and possibly CoD 6 as a nominee.

I wonder if Uncharted II can outsell Alan Wake, it's gonna be an interesting battle in the long run.

It's THESE kinds of statements that always make me shake my head....Ummm, inFAMOUS and Killzone 2 are chopped liver? What about Demon's Souls, or Ratchet & Clank? The PS3, so far, has actually seen plenty of games this year exclusive to it.

I don't follow what you're saying, at all! And Alan Wake is coming out at a whole entire different period. How do their sales even coincide?

Also, I find it interesting that people, who normally do nothing but bash Sony and the PS3, frequent these kinds of threads.


Hey, there's a lot less Xbox fans visiting Sony threads than vice versa. The last Alan Wake thread was infested with haters that downplayed everything about it. I'm just trying to be an equalizer.

Infamous is not a big game, it will barely sell a million. It's very far from being GOTY material. And while Ratchet may be a popular & nice game, it's in the same class with Banjo Kazoi and Viv Pinata, nothing you mention in GOTY discussions.

So besides Uncharted II there's only KZ2 that will be a contender for PS3 GOTY 2009. But not only was KZ2 released very early in the year, which gives it a natural disadvantage among voters, but I am very confident that Uncharted II will be praised more and win GOTY without much effort.

As for Alan Wake vs Uncharted II, what does it matter if they release ½ year apart? Both are important and hyped exclusives, both have a lot of movie influences (the music, story telling structure etc), both have adventure, action and explorer elements. Both cater to the mainstream action game players. And they are predicted to sell around 3 million each. I think it's a very interesting matchup, and my internal goal is that Alan Wake will beat Uncharted II in sales.

What else on PS3 would you match up against Alan Wake? Certainly not Heavy Rain anymore, anyone should realize by now that Heavy Rain will be slain in sales.

1) I disagree... I see loads of MS fans in the SONY forums these days. How would I know??? I rarely even glance at the MS Forums...

2) inFamous scored higher on IGN and Gamespot than Uncharted 1 did. This site has inFamous at 631K sales with just the first 4 weeks. Judging by your game collection, I don't even think you have the system needed to play inFamous...

3) Why is it that every thread has to turn into a sales discussion??? When GT5's the talk, we have to compare it to predicted Forza 3 sales...
When it's FF13, we gotta compare predicted sales of the two platform versions... KEEP IT IN THE SALES DISCUSSION. This thread was about graphics. What's the point of the sales forum anymore?

4) Heavy Rain will be slain in sales??? I think you're in the wrong forum... 

but how do you want him to argue with you considering that ... Uncharted 2 is the graphical King !!!

(and KZ2 is just behind  ;)        )



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Munkeh111 on 29 July 2009
Slimebeast said:
Wass said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
Since the PS3 don't have much else this year Uncharted 2 will easily be GOTY for PS3 unless you include multiplatforms, because if you do it's going to be Assassin's Creed II guaranteed and possibly CoD 6 as a nominee.

I wonder if Uncharted II can outsell Alan Wake, it's gonna be an interesting battle in the long run.

It's THESE kinds of statements that always make me shake my head....Ummm, inFAMOUS and Killzone 2 are chopped liver? What about Demon's Souls, or Ratchet & Clank? The PS3, so far, has actually seen plenty of games this year exclusive to it.

I don't follow what you're saying, at all! And Alan Wake is coming out at a whole entire different period. How do their sales even coincide?

Also, I find it interesting that people, who normally do nothing but bash Sony and the PS3, frequent these kinds of threads.


Hey, there's a lot less Xbox fans visiting Sony threads than vice versa. The last Alan Wake thread was infested with haters that downplayed everything about it. I'm just trying to be an equalizer.

Infamous is not a big game, it will barely sell a million. It's very far from being GOTY material. And while Ratchet may be a popular & nice game, it's in the same class with Banjo Kazoi and Viv Pinata, nothing you mention in GOTY discussions.

So besides Uncharted II there's only KZ2 that will be a contender for PS3 GOTY 2009. But not only was KZ2 released very early in the year, which gives it a natural disadvantage among voters, but I am very confident that Uncharted II will be praised more and win GOTY without much effort.

As for Alan Wake vs Uncharted II, what does it matter if they release ½ year apart? Both are important and hyped exclusives, both have a lot of movie influences (the music, story telling structure etc), both have adventure, action and explorer elements. Both cater to the mainstream action game players. And they are predicted to sell around 3 million each. I think it's a very interesting matchup, and my internal goal is that Alan Wake will beat Uncharted II in sales.

What else on PS3 would you match up against Alan Wake? Certainly not Heavy Rain anymore, anyone should realize by now that Heavy Rain will be slain in sales.


Maybe GT5 gets released this year? Could it get GOTY if so?

Of course GT5 would become the biggest favorite, even to win the GOTY overall for all platforms. It might be out before Christmas in Japan, but there's zero chance it will release in the West because GT always comes out in Japan 2-3 months before the West. And to be nominated for a GOTY a game has to be released in the West the same year.

So it is impossible after the head of PD said they can release it at any time they want.

And in reference to your other point about Uncharted 2 being the only thing for PS3 this year, Killzone 2, inFamous, Ratchet and more, the first being an AAA game. And of course Uncharted 2 is going to outsell Alan Wake, an October release and winner of best E3 game and it is very hyped



Dgc1808 on 29 July 2009
Slimebeast said:

Of course GT5 would become the biggest favorite, even to win the GOTY overall for all platforms. It might be out before Christmas in Japan, but there's zero chance it will release in the West because GT always comes out in Japan 2-3 months before the West. And to be nominated for a GOTY a game has to be released in the West the same year.

 


GT4:

Japan - Jan 10, 2005
US - Feb 22, 2005

Less than 2 months.

And I have to ask.... Why would something like that have to stick???

MGS4 had a WW Simo Release, none of the past games had that...

DMC3 came the West a little under 1 month after Japan.
DMC4 came the West just 5 days after Japan....



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Dgc1808 on 29 July 2009

4:10am....

I need my sleep....



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Wass on 29 July 2009

GT5 Prologue:

Japan - Dec 13, 2007
US - Apr 15, 2008


I hope DP doesn't do the same with GT5 :(