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Didn't they spend a load of time totally reworking the graphics for this game? Explains where the dev time went.

As an aside, while the game looks fun, I have no idea which part of the Wii user base they are trying to aim this at. I predict poor sales.



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KungKras said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't know why people complain about not having online anything on wii. If you bought the wii for online play, you made the wrong purchase and it's your fault not capcom's...'nuff said.

BS. I bought the Wii because I wanted games like those that were on any other system only with Wii controls. There is NO excuse for third parties not doing regular games on Wii, none at all. Especially considering how easy it was for them to start making their games for PS1.

What is BS? Let's hear a defense!

Explain the Wii is a better alternative than PS3 or 360 for online play.



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outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't know why people complain about not having online anything on wii. If you bought the wii for online play, you made the wrong purchase and it's your fault not capcom's...'nuff said.

BS. I bought the Wii because I wanted games like those that were on any other system only with Wii controls. There is NO excuse for third parties not doing regular games on Wii, none at all. Especially considering how easy it was for them to start making their games for PS1.

What is BS? Let's hear a defense!

Explain the Wii is a better alternative than PS3 or 360 for online play.


Since online is more or less a standard nowadays it's almost unthinkable that third parties won't follow that standard on the Wii. I don't have to argue that the Wii is better at online or anything, point still stands. When buying a Wii, it should be reasonable to expect games that support online in a similar fashion to games on other consoles. With Wiiconnect24, it can even be argued that Wii online has some advantages over the other systems (theoretically).



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KungKras said:
outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't know why people complain about not having online anything on wii. If you bought the wii for online play, you made the wrong purchase and it's your fault not capcom's...'nuff said.

BS. I bought the Wii because I wanted games like those that were on any other system only with Wii controls. There is NO excuse for third parties not doing regular games on Wii, none at all. Especially considering how easy it was for them to start making their games for PS1.

What is BS? Let's hear a defense!

Explain the Wii is a better alternative than PS3 or 360 for online play.

Since online is more or less a standard nowadays it's almost unthinkable that third parties won't follow that standard on the Wii. I don't have to argue that the Wii is better at online or anything, point still stands. When buying a Wii, it should be reasonable to expect games that support online in a similar fashion to games on other consoles. With Wiiconnect24, it can even be argued that Wii online has some advantages over the other systems (theoretically).

I agree completely. Online multiplayer/co-op is a standard of this generation, but I think Nintendo needs to take the lead and have everyone follow. (as it has been with the Wii)

I mean the biggest Wii title this year doesn't even have online multiplayer.



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Is it really surprising that third parties are putting less emphasis on graphics and online for Wii games when that's pretty much the whole philosophy of the console?

Sven is absolutely right. Nintendo can't be bothered to include online play in Wii Sports Resort, so why should they?



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outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't know why people complain about not having online anything on wii. If you bought the wii for online play, you made the wrong purchase and it's your fault not capcom's...'nuff said.

BS. I bought the Wii because I wanted games like those that were on any other system only with Wii controls. There is NO excuse for third parties not doing regular games on Wii, none at all. Especially considering how easy it was for them to start making their games for PS1.

What is BS? Let's hear a defense!

Explain the Wii is a better alternative than PS3 or 360 for online play.

Since online is more or less a standard nowadays it's almost unthinkable that third parties won't follow that standard on the Wii. I don't have to argue that the Wii is better at online or anything, point still stands. When buying a Wii, it should be reasonable to expect games that support online in a similar fashion to games on other consoles. With Wiiconnect24, it can even be argued that Wii online has some advantages over the other systems (theoretically).

I agree completely. Online multiplayer/co-op is a standard of this generation, but I think Nintendo needs to take the lead and have everyone follow. (as it has been with the Wii)

I mean the biggest Wii title this year doesn't even have online multiplayer.

Agreed. Nintendo needs to improve the list of games that supports online, and third parties like Capcom needs to follow.



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KungKras said:
outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't know why people complain about not having online anything on wii. If you bought the wii for online play, you made the wrong purchase and it's your fault not capcom's...'nuff said.

BS. I bought the Wii because I wanted games like those that were on any other system only with Wii controls. There is NO excuse for third parties not doing regular games on Wii, none at all. Especially considering how easy it was for them to start making their games for PS1.

What is BS? Let's hear a defense!

Explain the Wii is a better alternative than PS3 or 360 for online play.

Since online is more or less a standard nowadays it's almost unthinkable that third parties won't follow that standard on the Wii. I don't have to argue that the Wii is better at online or anything, point still stands. When buying a Wii, it should be reasonable to expect games that support online in a similar fashion to games on other consoles. With Wiiconnect24, it can even be argued that Wii online has some advantages over the other systems (theoretically).

I agree completely. Online multiplayer/co-op is a standard of this generation, but I think Nintendo needs to take the lead and have everyone follow. (as it has been with the Wii)

I mean the biggest Wii title this year doesn't even have online multiplayer.

Agreed. Nintendo needs to improve the list of games that supports online, and third parties like Capcom needs to follow.

Thing is, the wii's online functionality is essentially a botch job. This was never a selling point of the console. If you want PS360 games, you'll have to get one of those consoles. If you want wii games, stick to your wii. Don't complain that the wii doesn't have capabilities of xbox live.Seriously, gamers these days complain about everything. You don't deserve "x" thing because you bought the "lead" console. I'm sick and tired of the boycotters and whiners. If "x" feature is not on your preferred console, get the console that has that feature. Don't buy oranges and expect apples to come packaged as a bonus.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the wii. I just don't pick one up and expect to get xbox live service..



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Lolcislaw said:
First Developers moan that Nintendo dominates Wii software sales because they offer the most complete products, now there is a chance of offering something else they cannot be asked. Eh... i dont get it

It's the Nintendo Catch-22.

 

If Nintendo does it first they tend to dominate that segment and developers/publisher bitch that they can't compete with Nintendo so they rarely even try.

If Nintendo doesn't put much effort into a segment, developers/publishers tend to bitch if Nintendo isn't going to bother why should they.

 

So they look for Nintendo to lead and then bitch when they do and then can't be assed to do it themselves when provided the opportunity.

 

 

Sven was spot on until he opened his mouth at the end and competely reduced Capcom's initially logical position to that of a whining baby.



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hanafuda said:
Didn't they spend a load of time totally reworking the graphics for this game? Explains where the dev time went.

As an aside, while the game looks fun, I have no idea which part of the Wii user base they are trying to aim this at. I predict poor sales.

Actually it does. Including online at this point would mean reworking everything again just to fit it in the system.

They could do it, but as Words of Wisdom wrote, it's better they get the game to play well first than shoehorn it in.

This isn't Capcom singling out the Wii. This is a developer trying not to take too much risk with a new IP.

And pointing out it would be included in the HD systems ingores the fact that those have loads of resources to include those things while barely taking up that much of the system. That doesn't make those systems better, since Nintendo didn't lose money with their supposedly underpowered system.

But back to new IPs. Remember when developers go for broke with new IPs versus going for broke with established hit series? Twilight Princess, Resident Evil 4, and Final Fantasy XII got loads of delays, and ended up being some of the most impressive games on their systems. Shenmue went for broke, and while impressive, look at what happend there.



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Pristine20 said:
KungKras said:
outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
outlawauron said:
KungKras said:
Pristine20 said:
I don't know why people complain about not having online anything on wii. If you bought the wii for online play, you made the wrong purchase and it's your fault not capcom's...'nuff said.

BS. I bought the Wii because I wanted games like those that were on any other system only with Wii controls. There is NO excuse for third parties not doing regular games on Wii, none at all. Especially considering how easy it was for them to start making their games for PS1.

What is BS? Let's hear a defense!

Explain the Wii is a better alternative than PS3 or 360 for online play.

Since online is more or less a standard nowadays it's almost unthinkable that third parties won't follow that standard on the Wii. I don't have to argue that the Wii is better at online or anything, point still stands. When buying a Wii, it should be reasonable to expect games that support online in a similar fashion to games on other consoles. With Wiiconnect24, it can even be argued that Wii online has some advantages over the other systems (theoretically).

I agree completely. Online multiplayer/co-op is a standard of this generation, but I think Nintendo needs to take the lead and have everyone follow. (as it has been with the Wii)

I mean the biggest Wii title this year doesn't even have online multiplayer.

Agreed. Nintendo needs to improve the list of games that supports online, and third parties like Capcom needs to follow.

Thing is, the wii's online functionality is essentially a botch job. This was never a selling point of the console. If you want PS360 games, you'll have to get one of those consoles. If you want wii games, stick to your wii. Don't complain that the wii doesn't have capabilities of xbox live.Seriously, gamers these days complain about everything. You don't deserve "x" thing because you bought the "lead" console. I'm sick and tired of the boycotters and whiners. If "x" feature is not on your preferred console, get the console that has that feature. Don't buy oranges and expect apples to come packaged as a bonus.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the wii. I just don't pick one up and expect to get xbox live service..

No expects wonders from the Wii online service, but when the DS is capable of handling online coop, then you know somethings wrong, something called laziness.

Besides it wasn't the point of this thread, no one complains about the lack of online co-op, but the fact that third parties always find a reason not to make their games as good as they can everytime. Either Nintendo did it first or Nintendo never did it. Nintendo always loses.



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