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He's the blogger version of John Lucas. That implies that he has a few good points but gets way too much credit and attention.
If the article is the same as the older ones (like OP said) I don't think I want to spend much time reading it, the older ones were basically all the same.
He's a good writer, don't get me wrong, but he's sort of a one trick pony in my opinion.

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MontanaHatchet said:
"The Nintendo fanboys revere the Atari fanboys as gods, and Malstrom is the prophet of their return."

It's really hard to take Malstrom seriously when he's so attached to buzzwords. I guess it comes with his profession, but he puts way too much emphasis on words with really hollow meanings. It makes each of his bits so annoying. And why is he ignoring Natal and Sony motion control, as if Motion Plus is the only thing on the market (save for the Wiimote)?

And this is where he's way too attached to buzz words. He says that sports games are "core" games. They're not. Sports games are a decent chunk of core gamers, and an even larger chunk of casual gamers. That's why the biggest sports games ever have had lots of casual appeal (Madden, Mario & Sonic Olympics). The reason Tiger Woods sells so well on the Wii is not because core gamers want to play motion plus, but because the Wii has the highest userbase, one shifted towards golf (people ages 25-44 and up), and a good control for the game. And good control is something that appeals to "casual" gamers just as much as "core" gamers.

Basically, he hates core gamers, and he doesn't want a group of people to have fun. What a great guy.

This is why I generally hate when his blogposts are reposted on forums, grabbed out of context. I only posted this one, and some others that I consider the best, and most universal, but even this leaves misunderstandings.

 

Of course he adressed the NATAL when it was announced, here. In short, he believes that it is a marketing stunt with the sole purpose of making Microsoft look superior, futuristic, and "win the E3", without the actual intention of making it successful as a product. (not unlike Surface, that was also the best thing ever before it disappeared somewhere in the process of development).

I agree with that one. Just look at the techdemos! Surface had the same cool but useless "messing with water surfaces" techdemo, a "painting with your hand" techdemo, and "importing objects through the monitor" techdemo.

 

The same with "buzzwords". His most popular article, the "Birdmen and the casual fallacy " is a long rant about the stupidity of the "casual' and hardcore" buzzwords. Note, that in your example, he used quotation marks, and talked about the public reactions.

"Core" is an entirely different matter, that was a proper business term for "the traditional main group of ones consumers" before gamers assumed that it is the same as their self descripting "hardcore" nonsense.

 



I think he knows what he's talking about, but he's a bit myopic. He doesnt critisize the weaknesses or future challenges Nintendo will face.



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hentai_11 said:
mike_intellivision said:
I agree with Malstrom about motion overshooting - but for an entirely different reason.
The motion set-ups make the consoles much less mobile. I take my GC all over the house whereas my Wii is tethered to a particular TV set. Microsoft and Sony are about to do the same for their consoles, except their general user is much more wanting to move things around and play on the road.

Think about it.

Mike from Morgantown

I don't know what your problem is. I also used my GC mobile all the time. I even bought a special GC bag. Than I switched to the Wii and also travel with it all the time. I even use the same GC bag for it. The Wii itself is smaller and there is enough space for 2 Wiimotes and Nunchucks. (I only had space for one GC-controller earlier ...)

 

If you are somewhere with a TV that you can plug into for display, that's fine.

But to play in the car on a portable screen -- or somewhere without a TV -- it is really difficult to do that. Even though Intec makes  a 7-inch screen for the Wii, I can't imagine playing on one. 

Maybe it is just me. But it sees that motion will lock consoles down more than they have been in the past. Just my thoughts. Any thoughts?

 

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mike_intellivision said:
hentai_11 said:
mike_intellivision said:
I agree with Malstrom about motion overshooting - but for an entirely different reason.
The motion set-ups make the consoles much less mobile. I take my GC all over the house whereas my Wii is tethered to a particular TV set. Microsoft and Sony are about to do the same for their consoles, except their general user is much more wanting to move things around and play on the road.

Think about it.

Mike from Morgantown

I don't know what your problem is. I also used my GC mobile all the time. I even bought a special GC bag. Than I switched to the Wii and also travel with it all the time. I even use the same GC bag for it. The Wii itself is smaller and there is enough space for 2 Wiimotes and Nunchucks. (I only had space for one GC-controller earlier ...)

 

If you are somewhere with a TV that you can plug into for display, that's fine.

But to play in the car on a portable screen -- or somewhere without a TV -- it is really difficult to do that. Even though Intec makes  a 7-inch screen for the Wii, I can't imagine playing on one. 

Maybe it is just me. But it sees that motion will lock consoles down more than they have been in the past. Just my thoughts. Any thoughts?

 

Mike from Morgantown


Okay, now I understand your point. This doesn't affects all games, but for games which rely on motion of the player you are totally right. Luckily I have enough room and a TV on the places, where I want to play.



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Man...I bet he was getting his ass kicked in every fighting game and in every FPS death match game and pretty much anything that required user to learn the controls.

He probably won a few Wii sports boxing matches when that came out and figured this is the future of gaming. He finally doesn't suck at games anymore if Wii keeps making waggle...

However with Wii-motion plus, controls are getting too precise again...so I bet he doesn't like that.



? explain your logic their disolitude?



MontanaHatchet said:
"The Nintendo fanboys revere the Atari fanboys as gods, and Malstrom is the prophet of their return."

It's really hard to take Malstrom seriously when he's so attached to buzzwords. I guess it comes with his profession, but he puts way too much emphasis on words with really hollow meanings. It makes each of his bits so annoying. And why is he ignoring Natal and Sony motion control, as if Motion Plus is the only thing on the market (save for the Wiimote)?

And this is where he's way too attached to buzz words. He says that sports games are "core" games. They're not. Sports games are a decent chunk of core gamers, and an even larger chunk of casual gamers. That's why the biggest sports games ever have had lots of casual appeal (Madden, Mario & Sonic Olympics). The reason Tiger Woods sells so well on the Wii is not because core gamers want to play motion plus, but because the Wii has the highest userbase, one shifted towards golf (people ages 25-44 and up), and a good control for the game. And good control is something that appeals to "casual" gamers just as much as "core" gamers.

Basically, he hates core gamers, and he doesn't want a group of people to have fun. What a great guy.


I was about to write this post. I have nothing to add.

Well, just one thing to add:

I think the 'upmarket tactic' and 'core market meltdown/disruption' is a mith. Or at least it's not working.

The (hard-)core market as defined by the two HD consoles is bigger than ever, and typical hardcore games have never sold better (shotters, WRPG, ResidentEvil, action games like MGS4, Assassin's Creed etc etc). Twe two HD consoles will have sold over 120 million consoles comnbined. So far Ive seen no signs from Nintendo to have been successful to steal anything from that huge 'traditional core gamer' audience over to the Wii.



mike_intellivision said:
hentai_11 said:
mike_intellivision said:
I agree with Malstrom about motion overshooting - but for an entirely different reason.
The motion set-ups make the consoles much less mobile. I take my GC all over the house whereas my Wii is tethered to a particular TV set. Microsoft and Sony are about to do the same for their consoles, except their general user is much more wanting to move things around and play on the road.

Think about it.

Mike from Morgantown

I don't know what your problem is. I also used my GC mobile all the time. I even bought a special GC bag. Than I switched to the Wii and also travel with it all the time. I even use the same GC bag for it. The Wii itself is smaller and there is enough space for 2 Wiimotes and Nunchucks. (I only had space for one GC-controller earlier ...)

 

If you are somewhere with a TV that you can plug into for display, that's fine.

But to play in the car on a portable screen -- or somewhere without a TV -- it is really difficult to do that. Even though Intec makes  a 7-inch screen for the Wii, I can't imagine playing on one. 

Maybe it is just me. But it sees that motion will lock consoles down more than they have been in the past. Just my thoughts. Any thoughts?

 

Mike from Morgantown

I don't think mobility of the console itself is a problem but more the amount of space you need to use it, dorm rooms for example. The demo of Natal at E3 with the lunatic lady who looked like she was suffering an epileptic fit, a game that requires 4 people to do that at the same time is overshooting the market.

I think another possibility of overshooting is full 1:1. Was it EA who said they had to tone down the sensitivity in Grand Slam? If games become full 1:1 they'll become less enjoyable and too difficult for a large part of the market that Nintendo has just created.



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senseinobaka said:
I think he knows what he's talking about, but he's a bit myopic. He doesnt critisize the weaknesses or future challenges Nintendo will face.

This....everytime I read his articles, He brings interesting points but all N all there more if theories then they are facts.