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Akvod on 20 July 2009

So Sony made a mistake when they crammed all their block busters into the Holidays, but Microsoft isn't when they do it this year?

Sardauk, are you saving up $600 (plus tax) for your 10 games this year?

Many Sony fans like me were saying (especially when people were asking if GoW will be this year or next) that we'll rather have Sony push some titles into 2010, as they might suffer from the same mistake they did last year.



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TheTruthHurts! on 20 July 2009

Delayed quality in a holiday already crammed with quality still equals.........quality.

That goes for both consoles.....



FootballFan on 20 July 2009

If GT is released this holiday all hell will break loose!



Sardauk on 20 July 2009
Akvod said:

Sardauk, are you saving up $600 (plus tax) for your 10 games this year?

Sorry to say, but I don't need to save...I'm 31 ... and I don't intend to buy and play all of them at release date...

Besides, their is some XBLA games in my list as well so it will be less than 600 € (not $).

A retail game here is usually a little less than 58 € btw (21% tax included).



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

DMeisterJ on 20 July 2009

@ legend

Oh... thanks, they just snuck up on me...

But OT, delaying these games is smart. Holiday dollars are getting pinched in the recession, and I myself am only going to buy 4-5 games this Christmas season when I'd normally buy 10-12 like I did last year. There isn't enough money to just buy so many full priced games at the same time. I'll wait til games like Assassin's Creed get price cut after the holiday shopping season is over.



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Munkeh111 on 20 July 2009
Sardauk said:

So much for the PS3 having a better lineup.... and all the fanboys giggling about it ...

I have nothing on my PS3-wishlist this year anymore... while I have almost 10 on the 360... I suppose I will keep playing KZ2 then...

 

Sony keeps loosing me this gen....

I am assuming that you are counting Assassin's Creed 2 and Modern Warfare 2 on 360, and if you ignore Uncharted 2, game of E3 and Sony's best exclusive, why do you moan about lack of exclusives. Personally, I'll be getting 6 PS3 games, 6 or 7 PSP games and no Xbox games for the rest of this year



KungKras on 20 July 2009
Legend11 said:
KungKras said:
Maybe Sony is just delaying many of their first party games to ensure quality. That's what you want to do when you have to rely on first party games to move hardware. Nintendo does it all the time. Sony has learned the hard way that they can't just rely on third parties to move hardware, and now they are doing like Nintendo has always done. Make sure that their first party games are good, even if it means extra time.


Makes sense, why release hardware moving games at the time of the year when the majority of hardware is sold?  Just wait a month after Christmas to release your big game where it'll have next to no impact on hardware sales.

This is from an article about why Blizzard is so sucessful.

"Quick work doesn’t mean that Blizzard will introduce a game before it’s ready, said Blizzard PR representative Bob Colayco. As evidence, he noted the release date of Diablo at the end of December 1996. Because Blizzard insisted on getting the game right, it missed the entire holiday shopping season, he said."

Good games doesn't have to be released on a specific date to sell. Quality is way more important than when the games is released, it is much more coustomer-friendly to release finished games late, than unfinished games in a period when they will sell, because then interrest will fade much quicker. I really hope that Sony has learned that lession, because they need to learn it. (And judging from all their delays, maybe they have)



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selnor on 20 July 2009

Hmmm, not sure what people class as major exclusives. Isn't demon Souls from From Software? And hasn't the reception of Previews been similar to Ninja Blade?

And did anybody really expect MAG to release this year?



Sardauk on 20 July 2009
Munkeh111 said:
Sardauk said:

So much for the PS3 having a better lineup.... and all the fanboys giggling about it ...

I have nothing on my PS3-wishlist this year anymore... while I have almost 10 on the 360... I suppose I will keep playing KZ2 then...

 

Sony keeps loosing me this gen....

I am assuming that you are counting Assassin's Creed 2 and Modern Warfare 2 on 360, and if you ignore Uncharted 2, game of E3 and Sony's best exclusive, why do you moan about lack of exclusives. Personally, I'll be getting 6 PS3 games, 6 or 7 PSP games and no Xbox games for the rest of this year

 

No that is not what I said, I was just referring to past PS3 fanboys threads (pre-E3) about the 360 lineup.

I might take Uncharted 2 but I'm not that excited about it at the moment...

Modern Warfare 2 will go on my 360, certainly not on my PS3...



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

Legend11 on 20 July 2009
KungKras said:
Legend11 said:
KungKras said:
Maybe Sony is just delaying many of their first party games to ensure quality. That's what you want to do when you have to rely on first party games to move hardware. Nintendo does it all the time. Sony has learned the hard way that they can't just rely on third parties to move hardware, and now they are doing like Nintendo has always done. Make sure that their first party games are good, even if it means extra time.


Makes sense, why release hardware moving games at the time of the year when the majority of hardware is sold?  Just wait a month after Christmas to release your big game where it'll have next to no impact on hardware sales.

This is from an article about why Blizzard is so sucessful.

"Quick work doesn’t mean that Blizzard will introduce a game before it’s ready, said Blizzard PR representative Bob Colayco. As evidence, he noted the release date of Diablo at the end of December 1996. Because Blizzard insisted on getting the game right, it missed the entire holiday shopping season, he said."

Good games doesn't have to be released on a specific date to sell. Quality is way more important than when the games is released, it is much more coustomer-friendly to release finished games late, than unfinished games in a period when they will sell, because then interrest will fade much quicker. I really hope that Sony has learned that lession, because they need to learn it. (And judging from all their delays, maybe they have)

Well Blizzard doesn't have to worry about moving hardware since there are hundreds of millions of PCs out there.  It's great that some companies have the luxury of delaying their games by a few weeks and missing the crucial holiday season but if Sony is relying on first-party games released in the first half of the year to move hardware then no wonder they're in trouble.  There's a reason why Microsoft is releasing Halo 3: ODST near the end of September and why they released Gears of War 1, Halo 3, and Gears of War 2 when they did.