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ameratsu on 17 July 2009
Kenology said:
71k for 14 days. The spacious gap between The Conduit and Wii Play in the leaked NPD numbers seems a bit suspect to me. But no way is 71k a good figure for two weeks. I don't know what happened with this game. The smear campaign didn't help things either. It really is a good game.

 

What smear campaign?



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Kenology on 17 July 2009

^ Sorry you missed it. It's archived on metacritic though... if you wanna have a look.



Torillian on 17 July 2009
ameratsu said:
Kenology said:
71k for 14 days. The spacious gap between The Conduit and Wii Play in the leaked NPD numbers seems a bit suspect to me. But no way is 71k a good figure for two weeks. I don't know what happened with this game. The smear campaign didn't help things either. It really is a good game.

 

What smear campaign?

I assume he is alluding to the reviews that The Conduit got and his conclusion that they are untrustworthy.  Might be wrong though.



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JEDE3 on 17 July 2009
Torillian said:
ameratsu said:
Kenology said:
71k for 14 days. The spacious gap between The Conduit and Wii Play in the leaked NPD numbers seems a bit suspect to me. But no way is 71k a good figure for two weeks. I don't know what happened with this game. The smear campaign didn't help things either. It really is a good game.

 

What smear campaign?

I assume he is alluding to the reviews that The Conduit got and his conclusion that they are untrustworthy.  Might be wrong though.


Is he suggesting that MS paid them off?



Kenology on 17 July 2009

^ Just remember that it was you who conjured up such nonsense from your own consciousness, JEDE3.

Nothing I said could have even led you to infer that.



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ameratsu on 17 July 2009
Kenology said:

^ Sorry you missed it. It's archived on metacritic though... if you wanna have a look.


Give me a break. The Conduit was given the most coverage of any mediocre shooter since... Haze? Of course there were reviewers who hardly played the game and hacked together a review. That happens with every game, but your conspiracy theory that the gaming press is systematically underrating certain Wii games makes me call bullshit.



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venepe on 17 July 2009

I blame myself for not buying The Conduit. I plan to buy it sometime in the future as I am a working man with limited time for games, and I already have many games to finish. Hey, maybe the Wii demographic consists of people just like me.



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famousringo on 17 July 2009
ameratsu said:
Kenology said:

^ Sorry you missed it. It's archived on metacritic though... if you wanna have a look.


Give me a break. The Conduit was given the most coverage of any mediocre shooter since... Haze? Of course there were reviewers who hardly played the game and hacked together a review. That happens with every game, but your conspiracy theory that the gaming press is systematically underrating certain Wii games makes me call bullshit.

I'd say he has a case.

If you listen to the critics, The Conduit is barely better than Call of Duty 3, worse than Medal of Honor: Heroes 2, and way worse than Call of Duty: World at War.

If you listen to actual Wii users, it's the best FPS on the Wii, with the best user score of all four games.

I doubt it's a 'conspiracy' as you put it, but rating The Conduit between Call of Duty 3 and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 is absurd, and only serves to further discredit game reviewers as professional journalists.



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darkheart709 on 17 July 2009

i dont think we should look to badly on this. the conduit had less tiem than madworld and managed to outsell it. lets wait for july npd to see where it stands. we've all seen wii games sell badly at first but then get more sales as they go on

and how did it do in others



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patjuan32 on 17 July 2009
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Agreeing with a lot of realilists in this thread.

The Conduits sales are atrocious for the first 2 weeks. If you want to argue that one of the biggest exclusive FPSes launching at <100k in 2 weeks is 'good', then feel free to. But don't mind me calling you crazy for it.

The Wii base here is ravenous. No More Heroes didn't bomb. Madworld didn't bomb. Zak & Wiki didn't bomb. In fact, no Wii game has ever bombed. 100% of Wii titles have sold perfectly fine, while it's totally reasonable to call out games like Bionic Commando, Haze, or Too Human as being failures. This seems to be the logic of many Wii fans here.

I think people need to wake up and smell the coffee. No system is perfect in what it can sell. The X360 has it's turds, as does the PS3. Just because the Wii is leading the market doesn't mean that it has a 100% picture-perfect track record with title sales. Not every PS2 game sold what was needed. Not every PS1 game. Not every SNES game. That is the market. Just because your in first place doesn't mean you won't have issues.

My opinion: The Conduit bombed in America and Europe for the first 2 weeks. It may show legs, and if it's a good game, I hope it does. However, to look at ~125,000 sales for 2 major areas for the timeframe we see, and calling it 'good' is nothing short of a mockery of the analytics provided by this website. If I were to take any other 80%+ PS3/X360 game, and put them in a similar situation for sales, I would be laughed at if I didn't call it anything other than a bomb.

I think only one person in this entire thread has implied that 70k was acceptible and that was only with the "it will continue selling for a long time" qualifier by mentioning legs.  And no one has specifically said the sales were "good."

How about reading the thread before writing your minirant next time, hm?

Most people in this thread are astonished not only at how low the sales are but how freakishly vgChartz appears to have overtracked them.

Torillian 'Sounds difficult to believe. I'd have to wait for a more reliable source. No disrespect to this poster, but it just seems like a strangely low number.'

Scottie 'Ahh NPD, always being wrong'

patjuan32 'Dude, you do not even know if the game flopped. NPD only release the top 20. No other site has confirmed the sale figures reported in the OP. The wise move is to take those numbers as if the are grains of salt. Secondly to be in the top 20, the conduit would have to sale more than 193,000 units. VGChartz did not have the game selling that many units.'

alfredofroylan 'I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. The original source took the numbers down and one of the things that catched my attenttion was the gap between the number 6 and 7 of the Wii list (wii play and the conduit) more than 70k, that's a quite big gap.'

Chizrum '
It does not mean The Conduit bombed yet. But it does mean that VGChartz has a big problem with tracking software. They constantly overtrack hyped Wii games and undertrack 360 games. This may be a coincidence or not.'

GianCarmen 'Why is everyone calling The Conduit a Bomb. Really, its only been out for 9 days and it was counted for those days. Stop saying that it flopped, lets wait for a month to see how it has done. Some of you are really beating it up for only 9 days of sales. That $hit needs to stop.'

That's at least 6 people that are having toruble accepting the numbers. Not because it's NPD, but because they either think the Conduit had to do better, or arguing that the sales numbers, if accepted, are irrelevant. I consider both sides of the argument to be from the 'I refuse to admit the Conduit did poorly' camp.

Um, No. If you actually read my  quote. You would see that I was refering to the supposed numbers. No other credible site corroborated those numbers. That's what the discussion was about. However, you seem to be a person that does not care whether the numbers reported are fales. All you really want to do is call the game a bomb to serve you own ends. That's sad.



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