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okr on 12 July 2010
BengaBenga said:
okr said:
BengaBenga said:

Still disapointed.

Spain was the better team and de Jong deserved red, but it's still sad to lose due to  wrong decisions (Heitinga's second yellow was a dive and we should have gotten a corner) by Howard Webb.

Still proud of the Oranje. Better luck at the EC in 2012!

Welcome back. Webb made alot of wrong decisions in this game. He may be a good referee in general, but on this evening he made the most brutal WC final I've ever seen even worse due to lack of courage. Webb's refereeing was a slap in the face of players from other teams who were sent off during this WC for way less than some fouls committed in the final (especially from de Jong, van Bommel and also later the revenge foul from Iniesta, which Webb couldn't punish as a consequence of his failures in the 1st half).

I'm surprised that so many Dutch fans and media are proud of this specific Dutch team. Times have changed, it seems.

Why wouldn't we be proud? We've reached the final. Something Germany, Brasil, Argentina, England, France, Italy, etc. can't say. It's only testimony to the quality of Spain that the team didn't see any other way of disturbing the Spanish play than to play very tough.

And let's be honest; South-American teams and also Italy and Portugal (dirtiest team this WC) always play very tough and don't get criticized for it.

@Barozi: Yeah it's been awhile...

Yes, you can certainly be proud of reaching the final. The Dutch team played very well until the final and deserved to be there. I'm not surprised at all that Dutch fans and media are proud of this, I'm surprised that they're still proud of this team despite their extremely rough play style in the final, which is still unusual for a Dutch team imo.

Also, Italy and others (Argentina comes to my mind, not Portugal) are always critized for playing tough and sometimes dirty, but I think they never cared. It's been their style forever.



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TomaTito on 13 July 2010

Thanks okr. I did all the work. (tired) It's a shame that Torres wasn't in shape with that injury (and is hit again), then our forward would have been more like it used to be.

Anyways, I'll be keeping this avatar on for another 2 years just like it has been since the Euro to bring us luck, maybe should add a star. Sorry to all who fell on the way, but it is Spain's turn now.



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FootballFan on 13 July 2010
TomaTito said:

Thanks okr. I did all the work. (tired) It's a shame that Torres wasn't in shape with that injury (and is hit again), then our forward would have been more like it used to be.

Anyways, I'll be keeping this avatar on for another 2 years just like it has been since the Euro to bring us luck, maybe should add a star. Sorry to all who fell on the way, but it is Spain's turn now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8814022.stm



TomaTito on 13 July 2010

^ I saw, I saw. Pepe Reina was just having a laugh with everyone and Cesc was one of them.
Is Arsenal saying anything over this???



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FootballFan on 13 July 2010
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^ I saw, I saw. Pepe Reina was just having a laugh with everyone and Cesc was one of them.
Is Arsenal saying anything over this???

Cesc Fabregas has previously confirmed he wants to join Barcelona. As far as Arsenal are concerned he is not for sale and still has 4 years remaining on his contract.

But, from my view Arsenal are holding out for a bigger price as they won't want to see their prize asset leave. Equally though, they won't want to keep an unhappy player.



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TomaTito on 13 July 2010

Just wait a see how it pans out between them, maybe Barça is able to buy him out of Arsenal.
Only good thing, they would bond much more and la seleccion would become more fluid.

Now my Atleti is up for its SuperCup against Inter at the end of the summer.
That's what I'm looking forward to now.



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SciFiBoy on 13 July 2010

I hope Fabregas does go to Barca, I depise Arsenal.



zuvuyeay on 14 July 2010

well done spain easily the best team in the world and congrats to inesta who probably is the best creative midfielder if you ask me,so i'm glad he goes down in history getting the winner for spain,

i though webb the ref did well,i prefer players to stay on the field,but maybe thats just me



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Barozi on 14 July 2010

 

new FIFA rankings are out:

1 Spain 1883 1 318
2 Netherlands 1659 2 428
3 Brazil 1536 -2 -75
4 Germany 1464 2 382
5 Argentina 1289 2 213
6 Uruguay 1152 10 253
7 England 1125 1 57
8 Portugal 1062 -5 -187
9 Egypt 1053 3 86
10 Chile 988 8 100
11 Italy 982 -6 -202
12 Greece 975 1 11
13 USA 969 1 12
13 Serbia 969 2 22
15 Croatia 968 -5 -73
16 Paraguay 961 15 141
17 Russia 956 -6 -59
18 Switzerland 940 6 74
19 Slovenia 917 6 57
20 Australia 911 0 25
21 France 890 -12 -154
22 Norway 878 0 -4
23 Ghana 874 9 74
24 Mexico 872 -7 -23
25 Ukraine 870 -2 -5

Take a look at England. I think that is pretty funny.

Also interesting to see that Egypt got more points than Ghana since the last update....

EDIT: didn't notice I posted the German version of the rankings....



FootballFan on 14 July 2010

England only went up 1 place because Italy and France dropped. Even though we were poor those two nations were even worse lol. I really think the rankings are rubbish. Why the hell are Greece there? They haven't got passed a group stage since they won the thing 6 years ago...