superchunk said: @scotland yard, that is only America's. If take WW, 360 has not always been outselling PS3. They kinda flipflop back and forth. However, if you look at the WW chart in console comparison's, it is and has always been about even on average. Niether is really gaining or losing. Wii is the only one pulling ahead.

How to say this? Well, your just straight up wrong? (you live in a delusion would work too!) The difference between the European ps3 sales and xbox 360 is next to nothing. Less than couple thousand. The difference in Japan in typicaly 8,000 a week. The xbox sales in NA more than make up for the difference. World Wise Xbox 360 is selling more than ps3. Perhaps even more important is the North American market. Here, the playstation has a large gap in units sold and is selling less every week than xbox. You have to have some pretty rosie fucking glasses to suggest domination by sony at this point.

Garcian Smith said: The difference is that the predictions for the Wii and DS were made before the systems' releases. Now, almost one year AFTER release, the PS3 is dead in the water. The console wars have already been decided.

 1 yearafther the release of the DS , the fight was still undecided ...

On HDTV's: Most people buy HD TV's because there flat and stylish, not for the better resolution.

On Wii's graphics: Most "gamers that love games" (I needed something to distiguish it from the term hardcore since that will cause a discussion on its own) want quality games and not the best graphics. I still love FFVII, Zelda:OoT and many PS2 and GC games. For me, and I think for most gamers, these graphics are not outdated as long as the games are good. Since PS2's still outsell PS3's (!) it's clear that graphics are not that important.

On console wars: Sony will have a really hard time beating 360 (let alone Wii) since both consoles will have a signifficantly better line-up this holiday and will keep this advantage also when MGS, GT5 and FFXIII come out. It's a snowball effect, people buy what other people buy. XboxLive is a really strong marketingpoint. For example sports games make up a great deal of game sales, now which console do you want to play this? One with proven great online that half your friends also play or an unproven one that a lot less people play.

I'm not saying PS3 is dead, but the Sony fans should accept that 3 games cannot change the general gamers interest.

PS3 win! but in 2009 only...

The PS3 is between a rock and a hard place. Halo and SMG.

@ azzer100

I predicted the Wii would do very well initially due to its pricepoint, having followed early Japanese Wii-mote demonstrations with much interest and the GameCube being retired.

The DS approach I liked but with its form factor I thought it wouldn't be that much of a success without changes, then they released the Lite version and I bought one for me and one for my girlfriend.

I agree, anything can happen and for the long run, I even think it's likely that the PS3 will be the leading game console if Sony plays their cards right.

hunter_alien said: Garcian Smith said: The difference is that the predictions for the Wii and DS were made before the systems' releases. Now, almost one year AFTER release, the PS3 is dead in the water. The console wars have already been decided. 1 yearafther the release of the DS , the fight was still undecided ...

 A technicality, because the PSP was released roughly a year after the DS. Shortly after, however, Nintendogs and Animal Crossing pretty much single-handedly decided the "handheld wars." Just as Wii Sports single-handedly decided this one.

elendar said: superchunk said: @scotland yard, that is only America's. If take WW, 360 has not always been outselling PS3. They kinda flipflop back and forth. However, if you look at the WW chart in console comparison's, it is and has always been about even on average. Niether is really gaining or losing. Wii is the only one pulling ahead.   How to say this? Well, your just straight up wrong? (you live in a delusion would work too!) The difference between the European ps3 sales and xbox 360 is next to nothing. Less than couple thousand. The difference in Japan in typicaly 8,000 a week. The xbox sales in NA more than make up for the difference. World Wise Xbox 360 is selling more than ps3. Perhaps even more important is the North American market. Here, the playstation has a large gap in units sold and is selling less every week than xbox. You have to have some pretty rosie fucking glasses to suggest domination by sony at this point.

When PS3 was birthed to the world last year 360 had approximately 5.3m units sold. So by a rather complitcated mathematical formula that only I know, 360 had a 5.3m unit lead on PS3 just before it launched.

Now 360 stands around 11.5m units and PS3 is about 4.8m units. The difference is 6.7m units. So, in the last 10 months 360 has increased its lead by about 1.2m, and this is after the Halo initial push, before that it was less than 1m.

Now, I did this same comparison a few months back and the lead was increased by 1.5m. So, it has dropped.

Also if you look at this** chart you will see that the curves for PS3 are nearly identical to 360 at the same time, meaning that it is on track to exactly match 360 sales. Also, suggesting that when you level off all of the bumps due to price drops and big game releases, they are selling at about the same rate on average.

It's best to always look at the full curve and not a skewed time frame that is for 360 now due to Halo.

** http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php 

the ps3 might be matching 360 sales on your chart but remember the ps3 sells in japan and the xbox dosnt so the ps3 isnt doin that well if its only matching xbox sales when they have a whole region advantage.

Nintendo has already won. A businesses main purpose is profitability. The Wii has been profitable from day one, Microsoft and Sony have not. Total number of consoles sold is irrelevant in today's economy if you losing money on each of those units that have sold.