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Barozi on 03 July 2009
NightstrikerX said:
Sardauk said:
NightstrikerX said:
I would very much enjoy to see another Halo Wars. However, I do not see what they could do to add to the experience. Halo itself is a very complete experience and there's not alot they could add into a sequel. DLC on the other hand.

I trust Robot Entertainement to make a good and innovative Halo Wars 2

But for the moment, I would like them to deliver more maps and units on HW.... it is a bit short for the moment..

And 800 ms points for the other "modes" was a bit silly...

There is no doubt in my mind that robot entertainment can innovate the game to only imagined reaches. However, the problem doesn't lie in the innovation or presentation of the game. There's always room for improvement there, the question lies will it be more of the same? There's only so many warthogs and wraiths you can put into a game before you begin to wonder if it's the same game with a new packaging. Changing the story may work yes, but would you really pay for a new game just to play a new campaign story? Maybe if it was a covenant story. But that's about it.

That's what I'm doing with all of my games. So yes most definitely.



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NightstrikerX on 03 July 2009
Barozi said:
NightstrikerX said:
Sardauk said:
NightstrikerX said:
I would very much enjoy to see another Halo Wars. However, I do not see what they could do to add to the experience. Halo itself is a very complete experience and there's not alot they could add into a sequel. DLC on the other hand.

I trust Robot Entertainement to make a good and innovative Halo Wars 2

But for the moment, I would like them to deliver more maps and units on HW.... it is a bit short for the moment..

And 800 ms points for the other "modes" was a bit silly...

There is no doubt in my mind that robot entertainment can innovate the game to only imagined reaches. However, the problem doesn't lie in the innovation or presentation of the game. There's always room for improvement there, the question lies will it be more of the same? There's only so many warthogs and wraiths you can put into a game before you begin to wonder if it's the same game with a new packaging. Changing the story may work yes, but would you really pay for a new game just to play a new campaign story? Maybe if it was a covenant story. But that's about it.

That's what I'm doing with all of my games. So yes most definitely.

Really? Wow, you are a interesting man barozi. If it was just a new story with absolutely nothing added. I would be insulted.

Now if they were to include new features, new units, new commands, new leader powers, and maybe throw the flood in there as a race. That would be a different story. But for all the new things they could add, the only outcome I see is them hitting a wall because it's done very well in the first game. As for the flood, that would be interesting to see. If possible.



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Munkeh111 on 03 July 2009

@ nightstriker, the problem is that it is set before Halo 3, so adding in new units is hard, because if they are any good, you have to ask, why aren't they in later Halo's? I can't really remember what happened at the end of Halo 3, but it didn't rule out Halo 4, so if they just put it after, while having to remove Spartans (unless....) they could add loads of new units and leaders. Then again, if they released a new campaign with a few refinements and new units I would still buy it. In MP, the main thing they need to do is weaken the covenant leaders, Arbiter can rip through a Vulture is about 3 seconds



shio on 03 July 2009
Munkeh111 said:
shio said:
selnor said:
haxxiy said:
I don't think so... I mean, why do another RTS when a new FPS Halo could sell +5m?

Because believe it or not. It sold very well. And it would be a different studio to the one creating the FPS games. So they would be able to do both, nd make more money. Halo Wars has sold 1.32 million so far. Thats excellent by PC RTS sales as well.

And there was quite a few Ensemble employees kept on at M$ to.

I think we will see a Halo Wars 2.

1.32 millions is great sales for PC standard but not console standard - Halo Wars had a huge budget and a huge advertisement push, I doubt it even made a profit yet. PC RTS games like Empire Total War and Dawn of War had nowhere near the amount of advertisement that Halo Wars did.

With Ensemble gone, I doubt we'll ever see Halo Wars 2.

1.32m is decent. Uncharted cost $20m to make, and given that Ensemble did not have to make much art for this game, I am sure they would have saved money there. Just assuming that it gets to 1.5m, it will probably have made around $37.5m at $25 per game, would it really have cost twice as much as Uncharted? I am sure it made some profit, but nothing compared to a Halo FPS

Indeed, Halo Wars probably didn't cost as much as Uncharted to make, especially considering it's an RTS, since Strategy games in general are cheaper to develop.

It's possible that Halo Wars is already making a profit, but what keeps me in the doubt is that Microsoft made a big advertisement push on the game that leads me to believe they wasted millions of dollars in promoting the game.



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Munkeh111 on 03 July 2009
shio said:
Munkeh111 said:
shio said:

1.32 millions is great sales for PC standard but not console standard - Halo Wars had a huge budget and a huge advertisement push, I doubt it even made a profit yet. PC RTS games like Empire Total War and Dawn of War had nowhere near the amount of advertisement that Halo Wars did.

With Ensemble gone, I doubt we'll ever see Halo Wars 2.

1.32m is decent. Uncharted cost $20m to make, and given that Ensemble did not have to make much art for this game, I am sure they would have saved money there. Just assuming that it gets to 1.5m, it will probably have made around $37.5m at $25 per game, would it really have cost twice as much as Uncharted? I am sure it made some profit, but nothing compared to a Halo FPS

Indeed, Halo Wars probably didn't cost as much as Uncharted to make, especially considering it's an RTS, since Strategy games in general are cheaper to develop.

It's possible that Halo Wars is already making a profit, but what keeps me in the doubt is that Microsoft made a big advertisement push on the game that leads me to believe they wasted millions of dollars in promoting the game.

I agree that it is unlikely, I guess they expected more sales with those ads. They closed Ensemble before it was actually released, so while some of them may have gone into their Halo studio that they are making, I think they will probably concentrate on Halo FPSs, though it will be interesting to see how ODST sells



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sinha on 03 July 2009

Can we please get some DLC that improves/fixes Halo Wars ONE first?
Some new units are needed to balance the game. It would also be nice to get some more multiplayer maps and a Covenant campaign expansion.



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madskillz on 04 July 2009

I could definitely see a sequel. If EA will spin off tons of Command & Conquers, why not Halo Wars? Anyhow, the Halo series is a sure-fire moneymaker for MS.

I do see MS making a Gears-type Halo, as well as a open sandbox kind of game - and even an RPG lite version, like Mass Effect (with power-ups).

So, IMHO, I can see MS doing:

1. Another Halo Wars RTS game
2. Halo RPG (like Mass Effect)
3. Halo 3rd person shooter



Munkeh111 on 04 July 2009

@ madskillz, have you seen the FF X Halo video? It's awesome. Anyway, I think a Halo RPG is definitely possible (hopefully Bioware made), but I am more interested in a PC Mass Effect RTS (think Star Wars Empire at War)



madskillz on 04 July 2009
Munkeh111 said:
@ madskillz, have you seen the FF X Halo video? It's awesome. Anyway, I think a Halo RPG is definitely possible (hopefully Bioware made), but I am more interested in a PC Mass Effect RTS (think Star Wars Empire at War)

Dude ... a Mass Effect RTS is soooooo full of win. I would love to see that.

No, I haven't seen the FFX Halo vid yet, but I am gonna check it out.

MS has a winner with the Halo franchise.



Munkeh111 on 04 July 2009
madskillz said:
Munkeh111 said:
@ madskillz, have you seen the FF X Halo video? It's awesome. Anyway, I think a Halo RPG is definitely possible (hopefully Bioware made), but I am more interested in a PC Mass Effect RTS (think Star Wars Empire at War)

Dude ... a Mass Effect RTS is soooooo full of win. I would love to see that.

No, I haven't seen the FFX Halo vid yet, but I am gonna check it out.

MS has a winner with the Halo franchise.

I am thinking galactic, level akin to Sins of a Solar empire in some ways.

And yeah, anything they put out with the Halo name is going to sell decently, but I generally quite like sci-fi games, though I didn't really like the FPS, I do like the universe in general