difference in reviewers and gamers score in Wii and Xbox360/Ps3 games

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Torillian on 28 June 2009

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Shadowblind on 28 June 2009

Shanobi said:

Torillian said:
@Shanobi

Heavenly Sword - 7.9 average with a 7.0 from IGN
published by Sony

Animal Crossing Wii - 7.3 average with a C from 1up
developed by Nintendo

Too Human - 6.5 average with a C- from 1up
published by Microsoft

Most games published by the big three get better scores because they are generally more polished and better games. If what you said was true would sites have reviewed even close to this low for games from all three?

7.9 and 7.3 are not bad scores. And Pokemon Battle Colliseum, or whatever it was called, got a pretty low score too. Outside of these games though, find me other 1st party games that have gotten bad reviews.

I agree they are generally the more polished games, also, but what I've stated is still true.

Ignoring the many ones on XBLA and PSN...

Nintey-Nine Nights: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/99nights?q=Ninety-nine%20nights

Metacritic 61, Published by Microsoft.

Kameo: Elements of Power: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/kameoelementsofpower

Metacritic 79, Published by Microsoft

Blue Dragon

Metacritic 79, Published by Microsoft

Lost Odyssey

Metacritic 78(WTF?) Published by Microsoft

Lips

Metacritic 71, Published by Microsoft

Ninja Blade

Metacritic 68, Published by Microsoft

Shadowrun

Metacritic 66, Published by Microsoft

Your in the movies

Metacritic 55, Published by Microsoft

I'll stop there for the MS games.

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SIREN: Blood Curse

Metacritic 78, Published by SCE

Singstar Queen

Metacritic 77, Published by SCE

Eye of Judgement

Metacritic 75, Published by SCE

Folklore

Metacritic 75, Published by SCE

SOCOM

Metacritic 63, Published by SCE

Lair

Metacritic 53, Published by SCE

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Barozi on 28 June 2009

So I guess Sonic Unleashed for the 360 must be much better than for the Wii

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/sonicunleashed
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/sonicunleashed

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Mr Khan on 28 June 2009

Huh, i didn't know Ninety Nine Nights was published by MS.

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Gnac on 28 June 2009

This thread reminds me why I don't trust reviews anymore. Better to just read the experiences of people who haven't been "forced" to play / bash the games I'm interested in, and gauge whether I should still be interested.

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dark_gh0st_b0y on 29 June 2009

LoL, first you say user reviews are not accurate or they don't play the game and stuff, and now you post these

come on, are you serious, Lair for example got 6.2 user score and 5.3 press, this shows that user reviews are not a joke!

user review and gamer score is much closer in HD consoles than Wii games, that's my point

they wouldn't be so close in HD games if user score was just a joke with 0.0s and 10s from fanboys

don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

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Torillian on 29 June 2009

you found a single game with a close score, doesn't mean that your system of assuming user scores are the actual scores all gamers would give the games is realistic.

I've mentioned the issues with your system time and time again, and you just want to ignore it so you can harp about reviewers and the Wii. Thinking that all of these 0's and 10's counteract each other to make an accurate system is just ridiculous. In the end it means that user scores aren't the well thought out reviews of users, but instead they only differ based on how many fans of the console and how many antifans decide to take the time to give the game a score.

I'm fine with people that don't want to trust review scores, but looking at user scores instead is just foolish.

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damkira on 29 June 2009

A very interesting point...

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palancas7 on 29 June 2009

I trust reviews from people who bought the game (online retailers) more than the so called "professional reviewers"

One example: Disaster Day Of Crisis.
Metacritic: 69.

^^That's enough to put many people off. However, if you read reviews from users (amazon.co.uk, play.com, game.co.uk), the results say it's good.

I bought it and loved it.

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_RKO_ on 29 June 2009

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

reviews are supposed to reflect average gamers opinion about a game, therefore giving an idea to the consumer how good a games is

accoarding to gamestats.com , reviewers opinion is much closer to HD gamers opinion, but most of the times is different from Wii gamers opinion

average reviewers do not really understand the Wii demographic, and they review Wii games accoarding to Ps3/Xbox360 hard-core gamers point of view, review system just doesn't work with Wii games i believe

for example:

The Conduit

	PRESS SCORE	7.0

	GAMER SCORE	8.9

Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the new World

	PRESS SCORE	6.7

	GAMER SCORE	9.0

Mario Kart Wii

	PRESS SCORE	8.0

	GAMER SCORE	8.8

Mario Party 8

	PRESS SCORE	6.4

	GAMER SCORE	7.5

Madworld

	PRESS SCORE	8.3

	GAMER SCORE	9.2

Overlord: The Dark Legend

	PRESS SCORE	7.2

	GAMER SCORE	9.2

Soul Calibur Legends

	PRESS SCORE	5.5

	GAMER SCORE	6.9

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

	PRESS SCORE	9.0

	GAMER SCORE	9.3

but in Xbox360/Ps3 games, press score is much close to gamer score, or much higher in many cases

Killzone 2

	PRESS SCORE	9.3

	GAMER SCORE	8.9

SoulCalibur IV

	PRESS SCORE	8.5

	GAMER SCORE	8.4

Resident Evil 5

	PRESS SCORE	8.6

	GAMER SCORE	8.8

Street Fighter IV

	PRESS SCORE	9.2

	GAMER SCORE	8.7

Grand Theft Auto IV

	PRESS SCORE	9.6

	GAMER SCORE	8.9

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

	PRESS SCORE	9.4

	GAMER SCORE	9.2

Halo 3

	PRESS SCORE	9.4

	GAMER SCORE	8.5

Me thinks you cherry picked reviews to prove your point.

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