Well, I can say that I am one of those people.

Gaming is the last thing on my mind with PS3. It's in my living room and I use it for quick web surfs, movies and music. And I really never viewed

it as a gaming machine. Games is just one more thing it can do.

So I must agree with Gilgamesh, it's Sony's fault that PS3 is not viewed as a gaming machine.

Been to the cinema's four times in the last three weeks.

Seen Infamous commercials three of them.

killzone 2 was expected to sell around 2 million and 3.

and likely will.so i don't see the problem.

ps3 owners have more to choose from are more diverse user base.

you know fps will do great on the 360, while they do great on the ps3, they are not the biggest part of userbase on the ps3, and most only

only play COD.

they also got the most of the multiplatform, + sony that have the most number of studios of the big 3.

and a smaller use base.

The Sony marketing machine for games and consoles has been broken for years now. It's a large part of the reason the PS3 has failed so dramatically. When you deliberately take steps to insult your own fanbase, as Sony did many times in the months leading up to the PS3's release, some of them are going to get mad and jump ship.

"This actually means that the final answer should be "Sony's games aren't different enough""

Well, if you look at the exclusives the xbox 360 has at the moment, most of them are shooters. It should be that "microsoft's exclusive games aren't different enough" or more respectively "lacks variety". There's more variety in sony's exclusives than there for microsoft's.

Anyways, the most valid reason I could think of concerning games like killzone 2 underperforming in sales is the lack of advertisement.

I don't see alot of Sony commercials.

Well actually I've seen a few when like big things are on. Like NBA, NFL, WWE and such.

Yes... partially... the ad campaigns are often week and rely way to much on internet generated hype... thats not a great thing. The gamers whom brows the web will known about the games anyways, so why not put more TV/Magaznie ads? I know that there where a fairly decent ammount for some games, but many European mainland countries are lacking them bigtimes...


and then there is the small instalbase and varied demographic issue... that has to be taken into consideration to ;)

Sure but quality is always relevent in the way that the commercial has to leave the customer interested. If you make a boring commercial the potential customer will loose interest in your product.

And I agree with your later statement. It makes most sense to advertise the product with the best return possibilities the most... However, they should have done a little more for infamous around here than nothing what so ever. It is a sandbox game ... and a super hero game :p

Like you said first, that the ads even exists help raise awareness of the title. But not if they're inaccessable (such as only viewed in other regions of the world.) and they wont do much if they're bad and doesn't give the potential buyer of your product some interest in what you're trying to sell. Wether they do this via viral marketing or a direct approach is irrelevent... as long as it's interesting.

Halo 3 only had a $10 million advertising campaign, don't throw around ridiculous numbers without proof.

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/12/1912212

Also in regards to your other comment about Lost Odyssey, there have been no jrpg's this generation that have surpassed it in sales and there probably won't be any until the release of Final Fantasy so please try to stop trolling.

Finally in regards to the OP I think to answer this question we have to look back at the previous generation. Even with the Playstation 2 the only exclusives that really sold phenomenal amounts for Sony were MGS, GT and Final Fantasy. The rest of Sony's games had good sales but nothing indicitive of the massive userbase lead they had for last generation. On the other hand even with a much smaller userbase MS was able to take a series like Halo and have it sell far better than any PS3 eclusive to date. Now in this current generation with MS having the userbase advantage this sales trend has become exponentially greater. With Final Fantasy now a multi-plat I think the only game Sony has capable of doing extraordinary numbers is GT5 barring the release of a new IP that captures gamers attentions on the same level as Halo:CE. I'm not sure why this is the case, maybe the type of people Sony attracts to its console are people that are more content with owning a single game or are more interested in the technical aspects of the console and not the gaming aspect?

This leads me to wonder, if Killzone 2 had been release for the 360 how well would it have sold?

To clarify I'm talking about games that are capable of selling 5 million plus, if we look at games with lower sales the results are not skewed so far in the 360's favor.