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wenlan said:
Euphoria14 said:
Could someone please explain this for me?

PSP 3000 is $169.99.
PSP Go is $249.99.

How is a 68% increase in price (or double for some people) if the increase is $80 which isn't even 50% of 170?

Wouldn't the price increase actually be less than a 50% increase? FAR from the exaggerations I have been seeing here.

i guess Zen divided 169.99 by 249.99 (169.99/249.99 = 0.68), which doesn't make sense at all

maybe people were too exhausted reading and trying to understand Zen's argument, didn't realize the point he brought up to support his argument has flaws. 

I didn't divide anything. I quoted that figure from a very respected poster. You should follow up on that, before you accuse me of any more number manipulation. I think it was a misunderstanding on my part, and I'm sorry, but I would never intentionally manipulate numbers to fit my argument.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
wenlan said:
Euphoria14 said:
Could someone please explain this for me?

PSP 3000 is $169.99.
PSP Go is $249.99.

How is a 68% increase in price (or double for some people) if the increase is $80 which isn't even 50% of 170?

Wouldn't the price increase actually be less than a 50% increase? FAR from the exaggerations I have been seeing here.

i guess Zen divided 169.99 by 249.99 (169.99/249.99 = 0.68), which doesn't make sense at all

maybe people were too exhausted reading and trying to understand Zen's argument, didn't realize the point he brought up to support his argument has flaws. 

I didn't divide anything. I quoted that figure from a very respected poster. You should follow up on that, before you accuse me of any more number manipulation. I think it was a misunderstanding on my part, and I'm sorry, but I would never intentionally manipulate numbers to fit my argument.

Sorry mate.  I thought he quoted your number.  I apologize for the misunderstanding.



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wenlan said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
wenlan said:
Euphoria14 said:
Could someone please explain this for me?

PSP 3000 is $169.99.
PSP Go is $249.99.

How is a 68% increase in price (or double for some people) if the increase is $80 which isn't even 50% of 170?

Wouldn't the price increase actually be less than a 50% increase? FAR from the exaggerations I have been seeing here.

i guess Zen divided 169.99 by 249.99 (169.99/249.99 = 0.68), which doesn't make sense at all

maybe people were too exhausted reading and trying to understand Zen's argument, didn't realize the point he brought up to support his argument has flaws. 

I didn't divide anything. I quoted that figure from a very respected poster. You should follow up on that, before you accuse me of any more number manipulation. I think it was a misunderstanding on my part, and I'm sorry, but I would never intentionally manipulate numbers to fit my argument.

Sorry mate.  I thought he quoted your number.  I apologize for the misunderstanding.

I quoted it, and repeated it, so I did spread some misinformation, unfortunately, which I should have vetted myself. Point is, nobody did it intentionally, and that's all that really matters. We're all human, afterall, and make mistakes, especially when it comes to complicated math, and official PSP prices, ect.

:)

No need to apologize. Sorry for the misunderstanding there.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
Euphoria14 said:

Could someone please explain this for me?

PSP 3000 is $169.99.
PSP Go is $249.99.

How is it a 68% increase in price (or double for some people) if the increase is $80 which isn't even 50% of 170?

Wouldn't the price increase actually be less than a 50% increase? FAR from the exaggerations I have been seeing here.

I was using Naznatips figures I quoted when he said:


The price difference is a 68% increase.

You can see that quote plainly in my original post. I was basing my reply off of that post, and not off any figures I actually worked up.(maybe I misunderstood, you read his post and follow my logic)

In fact, I stated this clearly, you must have missed it:

A. To me, and most people, saying "twice the price" is a figure of speech. 70 percent increase in price is, arguably, close enough, and in my opinion, it certainly is. I wasn't attempting to spread false information, and I figured the real increase was more like 50 percent. My point was you are paying more for less, which you are.

So, clearly I am exhonerated from your implication that I purposefully exaggerated. At worst, it was an accident, at best a misunderstanding. A simple mathematical error.

That said, you did miss the entire point of my post. Nothing is exaggerated. The PSP Go loses the used market, screen size, the UMD drive, costs sony less to produce, gains a new look, some memory, and roughly 80($169 you say? to $250) dollars in cost to the consumer.

What am I exaggerating?

Also, PSP 3000's brand new, and Piano black stealed 2000's are going for 140 dollars on Ebay. :P

Again, my argument is made, I don't want to argue about it, it is based on my opinion, and I would rather not keep talking about it. Why don't some of you tell us why you think the Go is worth the increase in price, despite the loss of the used market, significant loss of screensize(12 percent I assumed), and complete loss of the UMD drive?

Did you know you could already download and play games legally on your old PSP, on Duo flash card? What does the Go bring to the table, that justifies the price, exactly? Pitch it to me, rather than nitpicking my valid arguments. Naz has told me not to argue much more in this thread, so stop arguing. Tell me what I'm missing about this device. Why buy it? I am open minded, but I just don't understand what this device has to offer over the old PSP, besides the asthetic and the portability.

You claimed it was double the price before Naznatips said 68%. It was point D on your big list. Your first post in this thread by the way.

His post that mentioned 68% was in response to yours.

Your post was at 4:31GMT, Naznatips' was at 5:12GMT.

So how was your first post based on what Naznatips said?

I only said the "double the price" was exaggerated by the way. Which was correct because 45% is nowhere near close to 100%.

Maybe I am lost here.

 

Anyways who cares? It was a mistake and it has been corrected.

 

As for the rest of the stuff, it is all personal preference. You think one way, obviously many think otherwise. I can not sit here and answer for them but clearly they have already expressed that they do in fact think differently and view some of your cons as nothing to make a big fuss about. For example with my two PSP's I never buy games anymore on UMD so the lose of the UMD drive means absolutely nothing to me.

It is as simple as that and will remain that way. No use in saying "I don't know how many people are really buying this, or just saying they are to support Sony." and "Why exactly, do some of you want this device?". Or that people shouldn't buy it so they send a message to Sony.

Just accept the fact that some people just want it. End of story.

 

As for something positive about the Go. I won't be buying the thing so honestly I don't have an answer for you. Best I could do personally is say that I like that it lighter, but that is about it. I still enjoy my PSP 1000's.

 

 

 

 

 



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It's just that simple.

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Tho as a word of advise I would highly suggest getting a data plan with your cell phone (I have the G1 through T-Mobile) and be able to go to the deals when your at work and what not that way you never miss any ;) Needless to say I never miss a deal and have been able to snag Tournament Edition sticks when they were briefly in stock to. You just gota get the right alerts and have internet on your cell phone on the go.



It's just that simple.

Makes me even more happy that i bought 3004. And even including 8 gig MS card i'm still 50 euro ahead of Go!



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I know a lot of people who will buy a PSP Go at launch, and I'll buy one too.

The thing is PSP-3000 is not for me, it's just too big to carry in a pocket, plus I don't want to bother bringing UMDs with me...

For me, portability is a big deal, and the design is a big plus too. I'm ok to pay 250$ for the Go.



dolemit3 said:
wenlan said:

why would people keep thinking Sony will drop the price of PSP Go soon?
it's not like PSP-3000 is no longer available or unable to play games released through PSN store

Sony has nothing to lose even when PSP Go stop selling
they can simply cut back the production of PSP Go
but the price difference between PSP-3000 and PSP Go needs to be there

i agree that $80 is a little bit high, $50 sounds better, but the pricetag of $219 just doesn't sound right
if Sony is smart, they should include a PSP game voucher or a $25 PSN card in the package

The PSP brand will get damaged though if they screw up the launch of the PSP Go.

Remember what game it's launching with.

GT:Portable.

I could be wrong, but I doubt a launch failure's on the cards.

Anyway, I'll still be picking it up as near as I can to it's release.

Damn thing looks sweet.



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