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Thinking about it, I'd be more worried about buying a 360 now than a PS3. It's one year older, and we can assume MS plans to release a new XBox sooner than Sony will release a new PS.

I wouldn't worry about game publishers... yet the PS3 has (for many people) the best line up yet. And it's been getting better and better every year.

Sony will support it for 10 years, and I don't think there'll be a new PS before 2013/2014.

So... really... It's a good time to buy a PS3. Best time was when they first cut the price. Next time they'll cut it will be the ultimate time, IMO



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I refuse to dignify this thread with a response.

If you really think the PS3 is going the way of the DreamCast, go ahead and buy a 360. It's your choice. I don't really care.



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What a fuking stupid thread. Lack of exclusivity from FF and MGS... OMG MEGA FACEPALM.

MGS4 excluse (one of best games ever too), FF13 VERSUS EXCLUSIVE, FF14 EXCLUSIVE, AND BOTH FF13 AND MGS5's lead console is the PS3.

You fail with that sentence thread maker.



Alterego-X said:
Dno said:

hmmmm ps2, NDS, xbox360 didnt they sell more in the 4th and 5th years then 3rd? i know xbox and DS did. so that 3rd year logic is flawed and incorrect.

 

hasn't the PSP come back to life in japan in its what 5th year? thats because of software and lower prices. Keep thinking that new consoles are coming because they are not.. only new revisons.

 

 

PS2 was 14% down in 2004, (and 8% up compared to that, in 2005)

Xbox barely lived four years

The PSP was a bit down at its fourth holiday, and it keeps decreasing in its fifth year.

 

While the DS was indeed 7% up in its fourth year, and suggests a strong fifth year based on the DSi boost, it is more like a proof of my post than anything. Even though technically it is a single console,  it was the new hardware that kept it alive for such a long time.

 

Also note, that while the PS2 had an amazing longetivity, and the DS seems to follow this pattern, these were the most popular consoles ever. It is natural, that their huge momentum lasted for a bit longer than usual. 

But the PS3 and the xbox 360 both have mediocre sales, that doesn't suggest an unusually long-lasting popularity. 

 

While it is possible that NATAL and the PurpleWand will really give powerful boosts, but it will only happen with almost literal re-launches, with full support, strong motion control-exclusive lineup, 3rd parties forced to use them, etc. 

But of course, this would have the same effect on us as a new generation. New hardware to buy, no forward compability, totally new style, obselete previous version, etc.

 

i never meant xbox i meant 360.

so that means 2 consoles where either the same or up and the other 2 where down? so your logic is still flawed



Reasonable said:
Alterego-X said:
Dno said:

hmmmm ps2, NDS, xbox360 didnt they sell more in the 4th and 5th years then 3rd? i know xbox and DS did. so that 3rd year logic is flawed and incorrect.

 

hasn't the PSP come back to life in japan in its what 5th year? thats because of software and lower prices. Keep thinking that new consoles are coming because they are not.. only new revisons.

 

 

PS2 was 14% down in 2004, (and 8% up compared to that, in 2005)

Xbox barely lived four years

The PSP was a bit down at its fourth holiday, and it keeps decreasing in its fifth year.

 

While the DS was indeed 7% up in its fourth year, and suggests a strong fifth year based on the DSi boost, it is more like a proof of my post than anything. Even though technically it is a single console,  it was the new hardware that kept it alive for such a long time.

 

Also note, that while the PS2 had an amazing longetivity, and the DS seems to follow this pattern, these were the most popular consoles ever. It is natural, that their huge momentum lasted for a bit longer than usual. 

But the PS3 and the xbox 360 both have mediocre sales, that doesn't suggest an unusually long-lasting popularity. 

 

While it is possible that NATAL and the PurpleWand will really give powerful boosts, but it will only happen with almost literal re-launches, with full support, strong motion control-exclusive lineup, 3rd parties forced to use them, etc. 

But of course, this would have the same effect on us as a new generation. New hardware to buy, no forward compability, totally new style, obselete previous version, etc.

 

 

Good points.  I do think this gen will last a little longer than usual, though, mainly driven by the following:

 

1 - economic downturn - I expect this to add a year or two to the gen as it will likely foster climate of moderation rather than focus on trading up to new versions (I mean in the bigger picture, not the smaller HC who'd trade up to get an even more graphically intense Gears or Metal Gear).  Economic downturns tend to focus people on getting more out of what they have and finding more cost effective ways to extend value of investments they've made.

2 - dramatic cost of development driven by HD consoles - I can easily see another Wii in a normal cycle, but not another big HD jump.  Developers have been complaining a lot about high cost of development for HD consoles, and while the SDKs are good, clearly another power jump would simply worsen the situation

3 - given 1)  and 2) above I expect MS and Sony to instead stick with the current consoles spec, which I'd argue is easily good enough to last and 3 years, and instead expand the systems through extended experiences via Natal and the 'purple wand'.  This plays nicely to the idea of 'adding value' to existing investments.  Instead of buying a whole new console, controllers, etc. you instead buy less expensive extension tech that dramatically changes what you already have.  It also eases pressure on development costs and allows the industry to milk their investments in current tech for longer.

 

In short, I think Sony and MS are going to go down the route you suggest, reinventing the existing consoles through peripherals and focusing on new gameplay approaches vs hiking graphical power.  I think Wii Fit has been a real interesting peripheral this gen, showing how something that genuinely extends the experience (if properly backed by titles) can effectively change the core console offering and drive additional sales and growth via titles specific to that peripheral.

MS and Sony's challenge is to avoid what I think of as the EyeToy issue - if they let their new control schemes become low interest peripheral with little support, they'll have failed completely in revitilising their consoles mid gen.  But if they get it right, it'll be as though they've launched 360 V2 and PS3 V2 and I'd expect that, coupled with 1) and 2) above, to keep the consoles on the market, viably selling, a lot longer than usual.

Nintendo may come out with a new console, but they have better breathing room to do so.  However, looking at current sales and the success of Wii Fit I wouldn't be surprised if they make a concious effort to extend Wii lifetime also.

 

 

Making the same console with new controls is not starting another gen. he stated he thinks another gen will start in 2010 and hes wrong. but only time will tell.

but yes i agree with you there will not be another system for at LEAST another 3-4 years (mab nintendo) just remakes of current systems



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Squilliam said:
PLAYSTATION®3 is the future.....NOW.......B_E_L_I_E_V_E

hummm. are you been sarcastic? i hope not

 

OT sony has many first party and second party studios and saga was into consoles alone, sony has many other products



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Bokal said:
Thinking about it, I'd be more worried about buying a 360 now than a PS3. It's one year older, and we can assume MS plans to release a new XBox sooner than Sony will release a new PS.

I wouldn't worry about game publishers... yet the PS3 has (for many people) the best line up yet. And it's been getting better and better every year.

Sony will support it for 10 years, and I don't think there'll be a new PS before 2013/2014.

So... really... It's a good time to buy a PS3. Best time was when they first cut the price. Next time they'll cut it will be the ultimate time, IMO

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PS3 has a future as much as the 360 does. Its sold about the same/more in the same time frame. Its just not THE console to own this generation(the wii is), it will however, continue to sell for a few years- even successfully maybe.

Buy one if your into the sony 1st party titles or blu ray. its about as simple as that.



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5 THINGS I'd like to see before i knock out:

a. a AAA 3D sonic title

b. a nintendo developed game that has a "M rating"

c. redesgined PS controller

d. SEGA back in the console business

e. M$ out of the OS business

Other than a "mole" at Ars Technica, what concrete evidence do we have of ANY price cuts? All I see is speculation based on the release dates of GT5, GOW3, or the holiday season. Yes I'm aware of that patent they filed, but that does really count as evidence that they're bringing back the BC? On top of that, they're trying the boneheaded strategy of selling the PSP GO for 250 and, as I said, I don't see any concrete evidence of a price cut.

 

Don't get me wrong, it has performed...reasonably. Selling 24 million units in this economy is impressive. Still, I don't think it's stupid AT ALL to think the PS3 will be irrelevant in a year. And I think we can forget about a PS4.



if sony keeps traveling the way it did this gen, stockholders wont let them reach PS5, for sure. but as for PS3, itll definitely last the whole generation, sony isnt gonna give up on it now. if money is an issue, just buy games used or something. avoid the xbox, the online will drain you