in part i agree,

in another part - sony's motion contoller is mostly like the wii-mote with motion plus so complaints about the original wii-mote are a bit misdirected in this case.

@kitler: In the interview (which I can't find at the moment ) only the traditional controller was mentioned, so I'd guess it would generally be limited to head-tracking and voice commands unless they come out with some hypothetical Xmote.

In the event that they do include a controller, I'd agree cost might be an issue, though but probably no more so than in the case of Sony's PSeye + 2-4 controllers. Frankly, I'm pretty pessimistic about any of this new motion control stuff gaining enough adopters to be viable unless they bundle the living hell out of it (cheaply). It just feels too much like they're trying to change horses in midstream.

Yeah, I remember back in the day when all of those Xbox fanboys were really supportive of the Wii-Mote and prayed that MS would give them some motion control.  :>

i was....? i may have forgoten.... plz qoute me....im not saying ure wrong.... im syaing i got bad memmory....

@Ant: I can't remember what you have complained about earlier. In your post, i quoted, you mentioned problem being graphics and non-appealing games, not controls (and you actually show interest into them).

A RTS should NEVER be on consoles plain and simple. Motion control or not.

Hey I remember that interview.  They were talking 'enhancement' of existing controller with Natal.  So say in an FPS you could lean slightly to the right or left while sitting on your couch, and your character would lean in the game, allowing you to peak around corners, etc. (something I  consider standard in an FPS from PC and still find annoyingly missing on consoles).

I guess taking all the MS messages so far what they're really saying is:

a) Natal will have games that only use it as the interface

b) the existing controller will remain in place for many exisiting genres but if sensible they'll try and integrate some Natal use

So I guess its already clear, headline catching hype aside, that Natal isn't actually going to replace the existing controller anytime soon.

It will be, some people do not have good body cordnations.

Is there a trailer or demo showing of playing with a sword and shield?

I would totally LOVE that in a game.

nen-suer said:

Anyone else notice that the character's hand isn't at the same angle as the presenter's? heh