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9Chiba said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:

everyone who claims that shia's being bashed just because he doesn't like the wii need to reread what he said. he basically bashed the entire wii user base, and he has never played the console. opinions are fine, but this guy hasn't even touched a wii. he has no right to use such harsh words.

let it be known that i still plan on seeing transformers 2. also, although Megan Fox is a twit, id still hit that. XD


You don't need to play the Wii to know that it is geared towards casual gamers rather than the hardcore.


right, but to state that its for "amateur" players is just wrong. i dont really view myself as an "amateur". the wii may have a lot of casual games, but they don't all suck, like he's implying.

don't forget that the wii has its fair share of core and challenging games....


Casual does mean Amateur, but because they don't want to progress their gaming skills. Would you rather I said novice? The Wii may have challenging games...but the amount of those games, do not warrent a purchase from a hardcore gamer. Casuals can get full value out of that system.

look, no matter what anyone says, ALL GAMES use progression of skills. what hardcore gamers have that casuals dont is the understanding  of most games in general; they can pick up just about any game and play it because theyve played many many games before and developed the "sense". casual games are ones that only require common sense. the wii only amplifies this, because of its intuitive controls. hardcore gamers tend to hate casual gamers because they didnt have to work hard for their fun. which makes sense.... sort of.


You just admitted that the Wii is a start up system, without actually saying it. Most people who buy Wii's are not going to upgrade. You also hit the nail on the head for while most hardcore gamers cannot tolerate casual games. Hardcore gamers are a minority, but their voice still holds a lot of weight.



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TX109 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:

everyone who claims that shia's being bashed just because he doesn't like the wii need to reread what he said. he basically bashed the entire wii user base, and he has never played the console. opinions are fine, but this guy hasn't even touched a wii. he has no right to use such harsh words.

let it be known that i still plan on seeing transformers 2. also, although Megan Fox is a twit, id still hit that. XD


You don't need to play the Wii to know that it is geared towards casual gamers rather than the hardcore.


right, but to state that its for "amateur" players is just wrong. i dont really view myself as an "amateur". the wii may have a lot of casual games, but they don't all suck, like he's implying.

don't forget that the wii has its fair share of core and challenging games....


Casual does mean Amateur, but because they don't want to progress their gaming skills. Would you rather I said novice? The Wii may have challenging games...but the amount of those games, do not warrent a purchase from a hardcore gamer. Casuals can get full value out of that system.

so are you implying that everyone that owns a wii is casual? look, just because i dont have a 360 doesnt mean i dont like hardcore games. thinking that all people who own a wii are "amateurs" is pretty stupid.

and how exactly do people become more than an "amateur"? do they have to buy a 360 or a PS3 to become more than, as you put it, a novice?

I stated that the majority of owners who have the Wii are casual. The minority are hardcore. Those hardcore consist of loyal Nintendo fans. The system is an Amateur system, that just so happens to have innovative controls. Only Nintendo can set the standard, but that doesn't take away the truth. Nintendo admitted that this time around they were after the casuals the whole time. They were not focused on the hardcore.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
9Chiba said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:

everyone who claims that shia's being bashed just because he doesn't like the wii need to reread what he said. he basically bashed the entire wii user base, and he has never played the console. opinions are fine, but this guy hasn't even touched a wii. he has no right to use such harsh words.

let it be known that i still plan on seeing transformers 2. also, although Megan Fox is a twit, id still hit that. XD


You don't need to play the Wii to know that it is geared towards casual gamers rather than the hardcore.


right, but to state that its for "amateur" players is just wrong. i dont really view myself as an "amateur". the wii may have a lot of casual games, but they don't all suck, like he's implying.

don't forget that the wii has its fair share of core and challenging games....


Casual does mean Amateur, but because they don't want to progress their gaming skills. Would you rather I said novice? The Wii may have challenging games...but the amount of those games, do not warrent a purchase from a hardcore gamer. Casuals can get full value out of that system.

look, no matter what anyone says, ALL GAMES use progression of skills. what hardcore gamers have that casuals dont is the understanding  of most games in general; they can pick up just about any game and play it because theyve played many many games before and developed the "sense". casual games are ones that only require common sense. the wii only amplifies this, because of its intuitive controls. hardcore gamers tend to hate casual gamers because they didnt have to work hard for their fun. which makes sense.... sort of.


You just admitted that the Wii is a start up system, without actually saying it. Most people who buy Wii's are not going to upgrade. You also hit the nail on the head for while most hardcore gamers cannot tolerate casual games. Hardcore gamers are a minority, but their voice still holds a lot of weight.

Twist words all you want if it makes you feel any better, but you and I both know he said no such thing.

By which I mean, the Wii is just more accessible than the 360 and PS3 to people who haven't played games before. Doesn't make it a startup system. Just makes it more accessible.



Majin-Tenshinhan said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
9Chiba said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:

everyone who claims that shia's being bashed just because he doesn't like the wii need to reread what he said. he basically bashed the entire wii user base, and he has never played the console. opinions are fine, but this guy hasn't even touched a wii. he has no right to use such harsh words.

let it be known that i still plan on seeing transformers 2. also, although Megan Fox is a twit, id still hit that. XD


You don't need to play the Wii to know that it is geared towards casual gamers rather than the hardcore.


right, but to state that its for "amateur" players is just wrong. i dont really view myself as an "amateur". the wii may have a lot of casual games, but they don't all suck, like he's implying.

don't forget that the wii has its fair share of core and challenging games....


Casual does mean Amateur, but because they don't want to progress their gaming skills. Would you rather I said novice? The Wii may have challenging games...but the amount of those games, do not warrent a purchase from a hardcore gamer. Casuals can get full value out of that system.

look, no matter what anyone says, ALL GAMES use progression of skills. what hardcore gamers have that casuals dont is the understanding  of most games in general; they can pick up just about any game and play it because theyve played many many games before and developed the "sense". casual games are ones that only require common sense. the wii only amplifies this, because of its intuitive controls. hardcore gamers tend to hate casual gamers because they didnt have to work hard for their fun. which makes sense.... sort of.


You just admitted that the Wii is a start up system, without actually saying it. Most people who buy Wii's are not going to upgrade. You also hit the nail on the head for while most hardcore gamers cannot tolerate casual games. Hardcore gamers are a minority, but their voice still holds a lot of weight.

Twist words all you want if it makes you feel any better, but you and I both know he said no such thing.

By which I mean, the Wii is just more accessible than the 360 and PS3 to people who haven't played games before. Doesn't make it a startup system. Just makes it more accessible.

The Wii is accessible to people who don't give a damn to learn how to play a controller with sixteen to eighteen buttons. There is nothing wrong with that. Nintendo hit the mother load aiming for the non-gamers. I never twisted words...he just let the truth come out, while trying to defend the Wii. The system was made for casual gamers. Where have you seen a Wii commercial where the Japanese saleman come over to your house and introduces a hardcore game to non-gamers? Never. Stop trying to defend it. This is a system where hardcore gamers came second. Nintendo put hardcore gamers on the back burner. Who cares though?...they are in the lead man. It is the best system for family and party gaming though. Other than that...I myself have no use for it. I am pleased to hear that Nintendo got a new Metroid game though. 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
9Chiba said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TX109 said:

everyone who claims that shia's being bashed just because he doesn't like the wii need to reread what he said. he basically bashed the entire wii user base, and he has never played the console. opinions are fine, but this guy hasn't even touched a wii. he has no right to use such harsh words.

let it be known that i still plan on seeing transformers 2. also, although Megan Fox is a twit, id still hit that. XD


You don't need to play the Wii to know that it is geared towards casual gamers rather than the hardcore.


right, but to state that its for "amateur" players is just wrong. i dont really view myself as an "amateur". the wii may have a lot of casual games, but they don't all suck, like he's implying.

don't forget that the wii has its fair share of core and challenging games....


Casual does mean Amateur, but because they don't want to progress their gaming skills. Would you rather I said novice? The Wii may have challenging games...but the amount of those games, do not warrent a purchase from a hardcore gamer. Casuals can get full value out of that system.

look, no matter what anyone says, ALL GAMES use progression of skills. what hardcore gamers have that casuals dont is the understanding  of most games in general; they can pick up just about any game and play it because theyve played many many games before and developed the "sense". casual games are ones that only require common sense. the wii only amplifies this, because of its intuitive controls. hardcore gamers tend to hate casual gamers because they didnt have to work hard for their fun. which makes sense.... sort of.


You just admitted that the Wii is a start up system, without actually saying it. Most people who buy Wii's are not going to upgrade. You also hit the nail on the head for while most hardcore gamers cannot tolerate casual games. Hardcore gamers are a minority, but their voice still holds a lot of weight.

youre funny. i was actually neutral and adding to your point, but since you insist on treating everyone who doesnt hail your HD consoles as the center of gaming, i guess ill just jump in.

 

hm, i guess it could be a startup system. but it certainly isnt single sided. plenty of hardcore. besides, its not like this simple-button, easy to figure out thing started with the wii. its in pretty much all of nintendo's games. wii just has waggle.

 

and another thing. dont say upgrade. i dont find the PS3 better than the wii.

 

aaaand finally, how many people do you think bought the PS3 or Xbox because "they heard the graphics were like krazy!"? the truth is, casual lies in your precious HD systems too. people who play games where one button makes you enter a long (albeit beautiful) and boring cutscene where some guy rips off another's head or slams him into a wall. the ridiculously good-looking games that make people go "nice graphics" even though the gameplay sucks ass. the button mashing games (Yes, im looking at your precious tekken. i love the fact that it has character depth, story and fighting styles, but i hate how i can own someone without practice). games that have oh-so-many tracks, maps, cars or weapons. oh and your fapping games. forgot about those. these games are a STRONG part of(pretty much most of) the HD library. they just have M or T slapped on to them, to fool people into thinking theyre elite. yes, you can argue that the triple A games on HD consoles are ridiculously hardcore, and i cant disagree. but like 20-30 games in a library of 500, 800, 1000?



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Bingoo said:
what a sad thread
if he had said good about the wii you would be praising the man for his acting skills.

honostly its one guys opinion so calm down. We all have opinions.

 

I dunno if you were here at that time but I certainly recall people saying he's shit in many threads way before this... In fact, mostly around the times the Indiana Jones movie came out.



And we all care to the tune of 5 pages what this guy has to say about games........ why exactly?



That's odd. I thought that an amateur console would perfectly suit an amateur actor like Shia LaBeuf.

Thanks for helping ruin Indiana Jones you dick!!!



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amp316 said:
That's odd. I thought that an amateur console would perfectly suit an amateur actor like Shia LaBeuf.

That joke has been made about 20 times throughout the thread, but I like yours the best.