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Zuhyc on 20 June 2009

Gh0st4lifE said:
You do not need my permission. Quote me as much as you want.

Basically I don't consider any professional to be as irrational as to invest more money where costs are higher and where less returns are expected. So yeah, even Kojima might become yet another "lazy" developper according to PS fans.

360 is currently "only" 10k above PS3 (which is still 10% more than PS3), but Microsoft knows how to push sales in the holiday season and they have so much more margin of manoeuver than Sony that they might even reach tipping point this year, despite all the shared IPs.

PS. GTAIV is really a good precedent. GTA, as a brand, was immediately associated with Playstation almost as much as MGS is.

At the time Rockstar spent more money developping on PS3 to achieve a version and didn't quite match the ported 360 version (native resolution and framerates are actually lower on the PS3).

No. Did People buy a PS3 because there was a exclusive GTA game on it? No.

People who really like MGS bought MGS 4 and a PS3 with it. I'm not saying MGS: R won't sell on the 360, but there is no proof the 360 has MGS fans (again, not saying there aren't any).

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geddesmond2 on 20 June 2009

ShadowSoldier said:

tombi123 said:

chocoloco said:

ShadowSoldier said:

We all know that most of MGS4's sales came from NA and it's sold over 4M copies. Do you think MGSR will do better on PS3 than X360 or the other way around? Personally I think the majority of the MGS fanbase own a PS3 and will probably be buying it for that system.

PS3: 1.5-2M Lifetime Sales in NA
X360: .5-.75M Lifetime sales in NA

You are loco, most of the biggest fans bought a ps3 thinking Metal Gear would remain playstation only. You can see how RE5 sold better or about the same on the ps3 and 360. This was becaus RE5 used to be sony only. It is currently rare to find games that sell so closely on each system.

I should read more carefully b4 I post. lol

At what point was Resident Evil ever Sony only? Infact the RE franchise was timed exclusive to the GameCube last gen.

This is not the same situation as RE, because there has already been an exclusive main series MGS game on the PS3. That means that 4M MGS fans already own a PS3.

Glad someone was able to see what I was saying

But I said that before everyone else on this thread :( Never mind me just pretend I aint here hahaha.

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luvtospooge on 20 June 2009

The playstation version will sell more.

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PsicloneX on 20 June 2009

if it,s a great game 360 owners will buy it in numbers don,t always assume that because ps3 owners have MGS4 that they will automatically buy Rising

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The Anarchyz on 20 June 2009

I love when people say the GTA and RE precedents...

-GTA3 was on PS2, Xbox and PC, GTA Vice City was on PS2, Xbox and PC, GTA San Andreas was on PS2, Xbox, Xbox360, PC and MAC... The series was never exclusive, it was only timed, then Microsoft got the best deal for GTA4 and 360 had the edge in NA, do the math...

-RE1, 2, 3 were PS1 exclusives, then Capcom signed a deal with Nintendo, RE0 and RE4 were on the Gamecube, RE4 later saw PS2, PC and Wii versions, and the GC version was near the PS2 version in sales despite having a huge gap in market share...

-In MGS case, PS3 has the edge because MGS4 remained exclusive and a 4 million fanbase was built on the PS3, so they will have the advantage in all regions (unless there's a major screw-up, or a timed deal with the 360)...

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Zizzla_Rachet on 20 June 2009

The Anarchyz said:

Zizzla_Rachet said:

ShadowSoldier said:

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Zizzla_Rachet said:

Carl2291 said:
Yes... it will sell more on PS3 everywhere.

No Boycott?

Wierd....

They never said it would be exclusive, and the PS3 version isn't getting delayed.

So we're fine with it

if FFXIII and DMC4 were announced multiplat from the getgo there would be less butt-hurt fanboys

It's will be funny if 360 sales of FFXIII are decent compared to the PS3 version

I mean DMC 4 , RE5 sold on par with the PS3...Both series never before on the Xbox brand

But MGS should sell more on the PS3....More than likely the first Multi Platform game to outsell the 360 version by a lot....Along with FFXIII

RE1, 2 and 3 were Playstation games, later Capcom signed a deal with Nintendo (Sony and MS are not the only ones that know this strategy), RE0 and RE4 were for the Gamecube, RE4 also saw later a PS2 version, PC version and a Wiimake, and despite the PS2 version outsold the Gamecube one it was not by much, and the PS2 was way bigger than the GC in sales... So RE5 selling on par in 360 and PS3 is nothing to surprise about, considering the situation...

In DMC4 i guess that one of the reasons the 360 version sold on par was that the installs on PS3 were 20 minutes (widely bashed back then, now people are more used to it) while the 360 one was playable right away, and also, DMC3 made it to PC...

Considering What Situation?.....

What does DMC3 being On PC have to do with Xbox 360 sales?

Having to Install the game has no Bearing on DMC's Fanbase Or Buyer Intent being tied closely to the PS Brand.....

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ShadowSoldier on 21 June 2009

Zizzla_Rachet said:

The Anarchyz said:

Zizzla_Rachet said:

ShadowSoldier said:

Kantor said:

Zizzla_Rachet said:

Carl2291 said:
Yes... it will sell more on PS3 everywhere.

No Boycott?

Wierd....

They never said it would be exclusive, and the PS3 version isn't getting delayed.

So we're fine with it

if FFXIII and DMC4 were announced multiplat from the getgo there would be less butt-hurt fanboys

It's will be funny if 360 sales of FFXIII are decent compared to the PS3 version

I mean DMC 4 , RE5 sold on par with the PS3...Both series never before on the Xbox brand

But MGS should sell more on the PS3....More than likely the first Multi Platform game to outsell the 360 version by a lot....Along with FFXIII

RE1, 2 and 3 were Playstation games, later Capcom signed a deal with Nintendo (Sony and MS are not the only ones that know this strategy), RE0 and RE4 were for the Gamecube, RE4 also saw later a PS2 version, PC version and a Wiimake, and despite the PS2 version outsold the Gamecube one it was not by much, and the PS2 was way bigger than the GC in sales... So RE5 selling on par in 360 and PS3 is nothing to surprise about, considering the situation...

In DMC4 i guess that one of the reasons the 360 version sold on par was that the installs on PS3 were 20 minutes (widely bashed back then, now people are more used to it) while the 360 one was playable right away, and also, DMC3 made it to PC...

Considering What Situation?.....

What does DMC3 being On PC have to do with Xbox 360 sales?

Having to Install the game has no Bearing on DMC's Fanbase Or Buyer Intent being tied closely to the PS Brand.....

Are you ignoring what he is trying to say? He's saying because MGS4 was and still is a PS3 exclusive the MGS fanbase are mostly PS3 owners because of MGS4. Which would suggest that the MGS fan would support The PS3 version because they own PS3s

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1337 Gamer on 21 June 2009

yeah id be willing to bet it will sell better on PS3.

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1337 Gamer on 21 June 2009

ShadowSoldier said:

Gh0st4lifE said:
Xbox 360, no doubt about it.

1; 360 will probably get the superior version (technically)
2; 360 user base has more purchase power
3; 360 gains momentum unlike PS3
4 ;exclusive DLC, who knows ?

There is a precedent : GTAIV

Using the precedent GTAIV argument kinda kills your whole argument. The difference here is that the majority of MGS fans have already purchased a PS3 to play MGS4. Chances are that since this is a spin-off only the Hardcore of the Hardcore MGS fans will pick this up and since the majority of MGS fans are PS3 owners well nuff said.

^this is my thoughts exactly

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