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NJ5 on 14 June 2009

I don't see how this is so different from people who buy game guides or check out walkthroughs on internet websites.



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noname2200 on 14 June 2009

So it turns out there is a penalty for using this feature. From the patent:



It is possible to start the game from the scene of "temple" by reading the digest saved-data described above. However, in this game, data of the game which is started in this manner is not saved. That is, only the data of the game obtained by a user performing attacking by him/herself are stored, so that a user who performs attacking by him/herself may not reduce his/her interest in the game. Hereinafter, a game play in which the game is started, while the digest movie is being reproduced, in a state where no data of the game is saved, is referred to as a game played in a "digest mode". However, data may be saved in the digest mode when it is unnecessary to consider that the interest in the game is maintained.

[0111]A difference between the user saved-data and the digest saved-data will be described. The user saved-data can be "loaded" when the "game" is selected from the title menu, and the user saved-data is generated and stored when a player issues an instruction for the saving while playing the game. On the other hand, the digest saved-data is different from the user saved-data in that the digest saved-data is previously set based on the game storyline as described above, and is stored as a part of the game program in the game disc 4. As described above, the saving is not allowed in the digest mode, whereas the user saved-data to be stored is obtained only when a user plays the game from the beginning, and performs attacking by him/herself.

I guess Nintendo anticipated me. I'll have to mull this over a bit more.

NJ5 said:
I don't see how this is so different from people who buy game guides or check out walkthroughs on internet websites.

 To me, it's the difference between making something out of a cookbook and having someone do the dish for you.

 

 

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forest-spirit on 14 June 2009

As this'll be optional I see this as a win-win.



Zucas on 14 June 2009

As long as it is optional, I don't see how this could be a bad thing haha. Don't know how most gamers could hate this anyways... not like the games they think are hard nowadays are actually hard. So much easier than they used to be haha. Get over yourselves.



NJ5 on 14 June 2009

It's not just Nintendo doing this by the way. Won't Forza 3 have that feature that you only have to accelerate and the game will brake and steer for you (or anything in between)?

@noname2200:

Depends on the genre, with some genres a walkthrough is not any different from the game playing itself. On some genres it's quite different, but then again a gamer can always replay the section for themselves. It just gives gamers more freedom of enjoying the game as they want, which can't be a bad thing.



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Pineapple on 14 June 2009

So, essentially, you can't save the game after using the plays-by-itself feature?

If I understood that correctly, you will eventually have to beat it yourself. You have to option to be told how to do it, but still have to do it youself afterwards. That sounds nice, as it can open for some platforming in which it isn't obvious what to do.



Avinash_Tyagi on 14 June 2009
Pineapple said:

So, essentially, you can't save the game after using the plays-by-itself feature?

If I understood that correctly, you will eventually have to beat it yourself. You have to option to be told how to do it, but still have to do it youself afterwards. That sounds nice, as it can open for some platforming in which it isn't obvious what to do.


No, according to miyamoto, the game plays for you, until you tell it to stop and from that point, you take over



 

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thekitchensink on 14 June 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Pineapple said:

So, essentially, you can't save the game after using the plays-by-itself feature?

If I understood that correctly, you will eventually have to beat it yourself. You have to option to be told how to do it, but still have to do it youself afterwards. That sounds nice, as it can open for some platforming in which it isn't obvious what to do.


No, according to miyamoto, the game plays for you, until you tell it to stop and from that point, you take over

Pineapple's right.  Read the part of the patent that NoName found about halfway down the thread.  If you use the feature, you can't save from that point on.  Basically, it teaches you how to do something, then you go do it yourself.



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Torillian on 14 June 2009

I just think this is hilarious because after all that crap MGS4 got for being a movie, now Nintendo has made a game that you actually can just watch.

OT: I don't know if I would ever use this to get me through something, but it's sometimes fun just to watch the computer play the game. I used to do that with Sports games, put two computer controlled teams against each other and just watch them fight it out. Not sure why I thought it was so fun, probably because I always sucked at sports games.



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NJ5 on 14 June 2009

@Torillian: The difference is, in MGS4 you can't play the sequences in the cutscenes, while in this case you can. I don't really see how the MGS4 situation makes this hilarious.

I'm not criticizing MGS4 here, just saying the two situations are completely different.

 



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