There should be 2 definitions of failure, one being financial and one being position in the market. PS3 failed massively in both losing tons of money and marketshare.

How did Sony not have a choice in include blu-ray?
Did the customers see the extra cost of the PS3 due to blu-ray as justified? The market speaks for itself.

well 92% of the movie market still think DVD is fine for movies and 70% of the videogame market still think that DVD is fine for games. Do the MATH! BR is just another niche cycle that Sony enjoy wasting billions on. UMD, Blue ray geez what crap are they going to spew on us next and when will they rrealize Mr Joe Public isnt going to take it?

1) BD is doing damn good as a movie format, unlike UMD.

2) I guess Nintendo likes wasting billions whenever they make a new handheld.... and quite a few of their systems for that matter...


Why do people say that BD fails??? Do you really expect it to just swarm in magically and take over the movie industry??

I think they say Blu-ray failed, regarding the PS3?

WTF????

Why do so many think that BD is the cost of the PS3's price tag.... The system is 400 and look at where standard BD players are now....

THe system was manufactured at ~905USD [20GB] at launch.... Even if going with DVD shaved off 250 dollars there's no guarantee that SONY would have taken the price of the system from 600 to 400...

So what would happen if DVD were the standard format on PS3? I'm pretty sure they would be saving a lot more regardless of how much BD players have dropped in price, plus you gotta remember this is a consortium which pretty much means PS3 is not just allowed to sell cheaper than stand alone players otherwise you'll be pissing off a lot of your business partners. So yes, BD is spiking up the PS3 and people are not willing to pay extra for it

lol wow talk about denial. Blue ray killed the ps3 and if their games really do take up that much space on the disc it sure doesnt show it.

o'l brother..HD DVD was never ..an i mean Never going to win..why?

there was only one company that made the D@MN OPTICAL DRIVE..THAT WAS TOSHIBA..alone all by itself

compared to 11 of the largest production companies for optical disc's arround the world which chose back in 2002 to support Blu-Ray

HD DVD was made to force Sony to release the PS3 early and lower the adoption rate of Blu-Ray because the "BDA" chose java over Microsoft's "IHD" control software

that's what's the truth.

nope:

a) only Toshiba made HD-DVD optical drives and none of the other's could make any money on the drives because Toshiba lowered the price of their unit's too fast, so none of the other manuf. could make any money on their's.

b) the payment to WARNER IS JUST THAT A MYTH. because Warner brother's sat on the Board of directors of the BDA..they saw the writing on the wall

11 optical drive manuf. vs'  only  just Toshiba by itself it was only going to be a matter of time before HD DVD lost by the very fact there were no other manuf. for HD DVD but Toshiba.

and even since 2002 you could already burn onto blank Blu-Ray disc's. HD DVD did not have even its prototype even done in 2002, while Blu-Ray was already on the consumer market to buy in asia in 2003 3 years well in advance of the first HD DVD player..no burner, just a player in 2006.

you cannot compare "UMD" TO BLU-RAY why?

1. name any other optical drive manuf. that make's "UMD player's" hell name any other device that sony has that played UMD other than the PSP..there were none

it was never cont. for the simple fact that UMD security protection was broke completly, and the movies were priced too high.

2. blu-ray on the other hand is nothing like UMD for one SONY is not the only one who makes Blu-Ray, and even when the PS3 was released there were other Blu-Ray recorder's and player's that were made not just by Sony.