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This will never end will it? Honestly, would it make any of you feel better if your console was slightly stronger than the other one? Does it really matter? Is it like some consolation prize? It's not like it would change anything either way.



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madcrazy said:
dcIKeeL said:
@imperial

Additionally, you're incredible bewildering bias is further confirmed by the fact that you own a ps3 and know little about the 360. Why? Because it proves you made your decision based on the fact that you love sony instead of taking a hard look at what each console offered and making your decision.

I know everything about both the 360 and the ps3 because I analyzed both before I made a purchased and decided the 360 brought more to the table. Furthermore I am a fan of gaming in general.


u see thist is what im talking about when someone argue is because he,she has a clear picture of what his talking about, unlike u witch is why its very hard to take u serious with your sign.


i was addressing imperial by the way



Nick said:
This will never end will it? Honestly, would it make any of you feel better if your console was slightly stronger than the other one? Does it really matter? Is it like some consolation prize? It's not like it would change anything either way.

Indeed. Guys, don't forget that seeing the PS3 declining sales (-38 % yearly in the US) is putting the revenue of EA at risk as well.

EA doesn't want to rely only on Nintendo and Microsoft.

Last year they annonced that PS3 was the std plateform for development and I'm not sure it is the situation now.

 

I wouldn't trust those guys...



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

My god... I have a counter part and that is... Crysis 2 pushes PS3 to "limits"

Not my words, but the words of Cevat Yerli, the creator of Crysis and the CryEngine.

"The interesting thing is we did run a performance analysis on the PS3 devkit, and you know the funny thing is the occupation on all the CPUs, the Cell and the SPUs, is pretty much - the needle is at the limit," Crytek boss Cevat Yerli told Gamasutra.

"There's not much more you can do, and frankly the breakthrough was very recent, and otherwise we would've had a compromised strategy on the consoles, which we don't have now.

"So I think we will still have an upside, but we're touching the hardware limits already," he added.


And the most important part: 

Crytek is known for its technical excellence, and we also quizzed Yerli on his impressions of the differences between the two HD platforms. "I mean essentially the game we run is about the sam," he said. "Probably one's stronger on the GPU side, one's stronger on the CPU side, so depending on what you're doing where, the PS3 does perform here sometimes better, the 360 performs other things better, but overall by the time the game ships it'll be absolutely the same." 


http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=23898

Now we can all agree, all that talk of the PS3 being so super powerful is just nonsense. This is a pro graphics maniac talking here, who spent 3 years researching the consoles to come to this conclusion, so anyone who says he's wrong is just a blind fanboy. Ok? Good. Thnx bye.



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uhhu..... So it's maxed out again....

haven't we heard this b4???



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nightsurge said:
Bitmap Frogs said:

Yay, flamebait thread! The perfect opportunity for MikeB to flex his propaganda muscles post-E3.

 

 

Ask him how he is enjoying his 90 day ban from AmigaWorld... sadly that means he gets to focus all the remnants of his time on VG.

 

We are oh so lucky to be graced by his presence.





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waron said:
Scoobes said:
Imperial said:
waron said:

another post made by SDF believer wow.

i prefer games i can actually get - i won't have that on ps3,

i prefer beter online - you won't have that on ps3,

i prefer cheaper versions of the same multiplatform games - i won't have that on ps3,

i prefer racing sims - i won't have that on ps3,

i prefer free chat not only in games - i won't have that on ps3,

i prefer backwards compatibility - i won't have that on ps3,

see i can do this too. so suck it up and admit that there are better looking games than every ps3 exclusive title both exclusive on other consoles and multiplatform.

 

Your justifying reasons why you wouldn't buy a PS3 (despite your psn tag) , it's easy to give a list of reasons for not buying something you don't have . If you can give alot of reasons for not buying something you do have then you've probably mad a bad decision in buying it.

I get the feeling he lost a bet, lol.

To the bolded:

1. Games you can actually get? What's that mean? Can you clarify please.

2. That's subjective, if it work, I prefer free, lol.

3. GT5 Prologue is out and GT is the most respected racing franchise out there, with GT5 comming. The F1 racing games are multiplat and comming soon, not to mention the F1 game out on PS3 now. Race Driver GRID is multiplat if you wanna count that.

1. i'm talking bout GT5 and similar yearly festival delayed of games you see on ps3.

2. exactly if it work i had ps3 when i exchanged it with my friend for a wii - it didn't work even though it worked perfectly fine on 360 with my slow internet connection - i have 384kbps. yeah that's another magic thing bout my country we have one of the highest prices for internet in the world(we are 3rd on that great "Best of" list if i remember correctly) and the slowest one in whole europe.

3. GT Prologue is just a demo and like i said once it's most respected cause since psx it was the only console game that would try to be racing sim. but then again every console racing sim looks like an arcade compared to pc ones and Forza so far proved to be better racing sim than GT during this generation. plus there are 2 PGR games, Race Pro, 1 Forza game and soon will be another one plus multiplatform games.

1. Yeah, I think Sony has finally gotten wind of this and are reducing the amount of time from announcement to release. We'll see though. It used to work wonder for them back in the day when it came to hyping games.

2. That really sucks. I feel for you. I think even my parents have better internet speed then that.

3. My point still stands that there are racing sims on the PS3. You made it sound like there were none. I'm of the opinion that Prologue is good for a demo. But yes, 360 has a good number of quality racing sims, I won't argue that.



MikeB said:

The additional gains which can be achieved are much larger on the PS3 compared to the on the XBox 360 regarding to the currently available technically most impressive games.

IMO with regard to the top segment the PS3 is already well ahead of what the 360 provides.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is IMO one of such games and if you looked at Uncharted 2 gameplay, I think it's obvious there are amazing gains to be achieved with proper dedication. Similar grand technical gains may well be achieved with a Killzone 3 in the future, for example.

Regarding 3rd party multi-platform games there are other issues involved. You won't see a game which has twice the amount of onscreen activity than compared to another supported console which can't handle this. This also because it would result into design issues for the porting process. Such games are also less likely to take full advantage of distinguishing features such as the extra storage provided by Blu-Ray disc, potentially resulting in better (lossless 7.1) audio and better quality or more varierty textures. One obvious example would be sixaxis motion control, multi-platform developers can't fully rely on this as it's not available on the 360 (a potential major stumbling block for multi-platform PS3/360 game design).

Other important distinguishing factors are a default harddrive to rely on or the 8 processor PS3 Cell chip.

Everything which can be achieved on the XBox 360 in high definition can potentially from a hardware specifications perspective be achieved on the PS3 as well, albeit this may require additional development and different implementation. For example taking better advantage of the Cell processor, letting the RSX use XDR or harddrive caching. Most modern games are as good as identical, but for a few titles even this may not be realized in full for a varierty of reasons.

LMAO, everyone can ignore MikeB, he has proven himself MANY times that he is one of the biggest PS3 fans on the site, see my signature for details.....



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Even if I don't like MS, I can't deny that a tri-core PPC and that Radeon GPU were a very intelligent choice. And we all know that main XB4*π/2 faults are low-tech parts, solderings and cooling and optical drive's mechanics not enough motion-proof, hi-tech parts like its most complex chips are very fine.



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nightsurge said:
MikeB said:

@ nightsurge

I was banned by VGChartz member Ausfalcon (a MorphOS advocate) at AmigaWorld, the guy who stalked me onto this forum. I confronted him with this fact there, hence the ban and deletion of my post.

As I told him, I view him as being far more malicious than some random XBox 360 fan like you.

No, I saw the reasons for your ban.  Don't try to make yourself off as the victim.  No one buys that after everything you pull.

His given reason was that I wasn't allowed to reply to his post of allegations to which he said I couldn't reply in public (IMO moderator abuse an an excuse to do what he did).

1) I pointed out his behaviour here at VGChartz (I think this is the primary reason for the ban)

2) I debunked one of his points, claiming companies like Dreamworks and Paramount had a clear preference for HD DVD. Pointing out Dreamworks was paid 100 million USD and Paramount 50 million USD for timed exclusivity.

3) I pointed out that his allegation of me selling PS3s being false. In no way have I ever sold a PS3 and most likely never will. (This is really something he shouldn't have deleted, I think I have full right to counter such false claims). But it's a strange point still as he never attacked nor criticized a Pegasos dealer posting very often in extreme support of the Pegasos/MorphOS (and attacking the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4 developers) at AmigaWorld (a friend of him, a fellow New Yorker).

Nothing more an nothing less was stated in the posting for which I was banned by him.



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