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Spankey on 03 June 2009

Ideally I'd like to see the hardware made by Sony, the control software made by MS, and the games from Nintendo.

I doubt that will happen though lol



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KBG29 on 03 June 2009

This device has the oppertunity to be awsome just like every other cutting edge device Sony makes. What it comes down to is support. Sony's track record shows that they will put this out to die.

PSP
-missing a dl service on day one.
-missing a proper media manager day one.
-Still minus a music store, and just getting video 5 years later.

PS3
-EYE arrives to 6 or so games, and has since been used in Burnout Paradise. Sony has had the capability of doing nearly everything Microsoft mentioned since 2007 yet they have do nothing to support the device in software or firmware.

Multitude of other problems, but I get to go Home. Be back soon.



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bardicverse on 03 June 2009
Honkeytonk Monkey said:
the2bears said:
Though this has a much better chance at actually getting to market. MS showed vapour.


Only, the company that makes that technology for Microsoft has dropped an October realease date for it.

But you're right, Sony's Ice cream cone controller is way better.

MS themselves stated Spring 2010, don't expect it sooner



theRepublic on 03 June 2009
bardicverse said:
Honkeytonk Monkey said:
the2bears said:
Though this has a much better chance at actually getting to market. MS showed vapour.


Only, the company that makes that technology for Microsoft has dropped an October realease date for it.

But you're right, Sony's Ice cream cone controller is way better.

MS themselves stated Spring 2010, don't expect it sooner

I heard somewhere that the company making it for Microsoft did actually say October...2010.



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theRepublic on 05 June 2009
WereKitten said:
theRepublic said:
WereKitten said:
theRepublic said:

Wii Motion + is full 1:1 tracking.

Technically, Wii Motion + only tracks orientation (3 degrees of liberty). You can still call that 1:1 or not, depending on your definition.

A system with an external camera like the Sony wand thingie can track orientation and shifting at the same time (5 or 6 degrees of liberty, not sure about depth/Z axis).

According to this, it does orientation and position.

[video was here]

No, it doesn't. Gyroscopes can only provide you with orientation changes relative to a starting direction.

That video is about a specific piece of software from a third party developer that tries to infer the position of the wiimote from its orientation (and possibly from accelerations) by knowing the kinds of motions you're going to perform and from biometric data such as the angles and size of the human arm. The guy in the video says so himself, well not in these terms, but thats what he means.

If you were to slowly parallel transport the wiimote around (not changing its orientation at all), that software wouldn't be able to tell. It would also go completely wrong as soon as you twist your wrist around or in general you keep your arm articulations in a different stance from the one they calibrated the software for.

It's still only 3 degrees of freedom, there's no way around it.

The Wii remote already tracks linear acceleration along 3 axes.  That is three degrees of freedom by itself.

Wii Motion plus will track rotational motion.  I am unsure of how many axes it will track, but I would assume all 3 axes.  That would bring it to 6 total degrees of freedom.



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