well outside Crackdown2 and Left4dead2

we already knew every game ...

except if MGS is exclusive but they would have said it in this case ....

I think those "whining" are in reference to the fact no "new" games were announced. (outside of the XBLA game) All the other games discussed were heavily rumored or assumed.

and you can't play games like Red Steel (or another FPS) with this motion sense :/,

without controllers = fail for a lot of genres.

I'm not sure how I feel about this conference.

I think that only MGR would qualify as a "megaton" based on internet reactions, though the motion camera would have qualified if we didn't all know about it beforehand.

How is it less tiring?

And again, how would you play a RPG with this?

Imagine an RTS game with Natal!!!! RTSs on consoles will OWN

Judging by the reaction in this thread, I think MS may just have won E3.

A few things:

- Note that after FF13 was discussed on stage, the presenter said that EVERY GAME FROM HERE ON OUT WILL BE AVAILABLE EXCLUSIVELY ON XBOX 360.

- MGS:Rising appeared after that statement was made. Hence Exclusive (or so we think)

- Previous MGS "Exclusives" have appeared on other consoles under a different name. So Rising appearing on the PS3 is not outside the realm of possibility. But it's about as likely as MGS4 on the 360, right? RIGHT? :)

- Given MS stance on what is deemed as "Exclusive to 360" (i.e PC as well), certain games may appear on that platform (L4D2 definitely said it was).

I don't care much for Nintendo's conference (my Wii is currently sitting unplugged in a bag), but I seriously hope Sony anticipated MS bringing it at E3. They've got around 30 minutes more time to blow MS out of the water. BUT, remember, they've got 3 platforms to speak about and no doubt their take on sales numbers as well.

I think MS did amazingly well, they got right to it and it looked like they had trouble fitting everything in. Alot of what was expected (Crackdown, Forza, Reach, ODST) was there, but they definitely hit a home run with MGS and Natal (that Milo tech demo was amazing, regardless of whether you believe it was all real or not).

I give MS's E3 a 9/10. It really was something else.

while the technology for the motion control is impressive, I think the demos for the control on stage are not impressive... people would want to use it in games, not just some navigation tools for lazy people...

How can people say this conference was realy good and the bar has been set high? The best thing they showed was MGS spin-off and that is probably on the PS3 aswell.

That motion thing seemed cool but if they cant demo it properly then how the hell do they expect developers to use it properly. It is going to be impossible to use it in a 3d action game. it will be good for mini games,

i must say though the demo with that animated boy was fucking sick. I have never seen nothing like it. It amazes me how good the 3d model looked aswell. Nice tech but how would a dev use it? How can it change the gameplay?