When the US is completely bankrolling that nation and blindly looking past their international crimes while vetoing anything remotely negative about them in the UN, I would say US has every right to tell Israel what to do.

Next we'll see a UN vote NOT vetoed by US that tells Israel to abide by international laws and GTFO!

1. They are not stealing anything, free Palestine is artificial creation made by whoever digged up Arafat from his hiding hole. AFAIK this idea have been created long after Israel become country.

2. You are also wrong about US not needing Israel. Israel is huge buffor against all the terroristic movements from this area, and also great help to keep arabs in the region under control. If it weren't for them those bombs from Tel-Aviw would be exploading on streets of US and EU cities.

3. IMHO Obama is stupid if he belives situation there can be solved by peace talks when both sides don't want it.

4. Giving East Jerusalem to Palestinians would be disaster and would just create one huge battlefield.

5. The only long term solution would be coexistance of both nations in a single country considering how much of places there shares history for Jews and Arabs (and Christians for that matter too but at least they are not trying to bomb other sides to oblivion) but before that happens radical arab groups must be crushed.

Glad to see that Obama won't just be a Jewish plaything like Bush was.

Finally about fucking time. Could it be that Israel's "might" (read: US backing them up in everything, and not much else) is at an end?

Now they realise this? Israel is a fake country,a nd it shouldent even exist :| Im partially a jew ( and hungarian.german) to but what happened there is simply not fair :|

What? Bush was a Jewish plaything? I wonder what world I live in sometimes......

1. What are you talking about here? Two points that my address what I think you mean.

A) prior to illegal Jewish migration to Palestine at the close of WWII Arabs (Muslim and Christian) were ~85% of the population. So the land was owned by Arabs. Since no money has been given to Arab land owners the settlement areas I would call it stealing.

B) During WWII the British made written promises to the arabs. Any nation that is majority Arab will go to full Arab control if they side with the British/French against the Turks. This happened everywhere except Palestine.

2. If it weren't for the massively biased support of Israel, there wouldn't be most of the terrorist groups and certainly wouldn't be anywhere near the animosity towards the US / EU as there is now. Israel is the cause.

3. Actually the majority of both sides do want it. Its just the minority of extremists that want it to continue. Israeli current leadership is unfortunately wanting this to continue as they have the currect advantage and know that they can keep slowly stealing the land if the status quo remains. However, Obama and Abbas both know that if US strongly supports a state Hamas and other groups will lose favor among the Palestinian population and peace is definitely possibile. Hell the entire Arab world has already signed a document for full peace if Palestine gets 1967 borders and right of return. This is just the initial offering. I'm sure if Abbas accepted a little less then the Arab leaders would be fine as well.

4. I can see your point here, but still doesn't make it right. E. Jerusalem was fine and peaceful before Israel and could be after as well. Just depends on how peace is obtained for the Palestinians.

5. I actually like that scenario as the Jews would eventually become the minority again. Thus, Israel would be an Arab controlled country. :) However, Israel would never want the land with millions of Arabs still on it. Settlement expansion was their goal. BTW, the Christians you are referring to, are Arab. In fact some of the various military groups of Palestinians have been Christian created and ran. Also, just as Hamas needs to be quieted, so does the radical settler movement.

I imagine most over there want to erase Israel off the map.

@Zlejedi

Israel is not a buffer. Israel is the cause. These terrorists exist in response to the existence of Israel. These terrorists justify their actions, because of Israel. They justify their actions against the United States, because of the countries support of Israel. Beyond that they have no real grief with the United States. Which had no territorial ambitions or acquisitions in the area. In other words the United States didn't do shit to the Arabs other then support Israel.

The support of the United States for Israel not only creates cause, but swells the ranks. Ideally the United States should abandon Israel utterly, and the vast majority of terrorist aligned against the United States would either abandon the quest, or find themselves dwindling.

Honestly there is nothing to be gained from a continued relationship. Israel is no longer the only democracy in the region. They provide no strategic value, of have any valuable resources. In fact by abandoning Israel the United States could get favorable trade concessions, and get valuable diplomatic currency within the Arab and Muslim world.

Israel should be thankful that at least the United States is broaching peace. This should be a good wake up call for Israel. Get your shit together and get it done. They have screwed around long enough. Get to the table hammer out a lasting peace, and while not everyone will be happy at least it will be a first step in quelling resentment.

Everyone is tired of this, and it does absolutely no good for anyone. At least with a Palestinian state the Arab world will have some closure, and the Palestinians the real victims in all of this can actually make something of themselves. Other then suicide bombers.