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MaxwellGT2000 on 27 May 2009
BMaker11 said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
theRepublic said:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2202853

     How long did it take the Wii to catch the 360?  It seems like it didn't take it anywhere near three years.

With dramatically better exclusives on PS3 than 360 the PS3 could start to overtake the 360 much quicker than you speculate.  Especially if there aren't any significant games or only a few Rare games being placed on the 360 at the same time the PS3 is making up the majority of those sales.

But it's about PS3, not Wii.

When PS3 starts selling like Wii at its best, then you might have a point.


     It might not be selling as rapidly as Wii at that point in time but when you have God of War III, new games from Insomniac, and other PS3 studios, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII, Versus XIIII, (especially if they get exclusive Kingdom Hearts 3), Kojima's next projects, and the other exclusives I've mentioned here, plus almost the same games that the 360 gets from Western developers while games like Gears 3, Fable 3 etc, are headed to 720, then PS3 would be selling well enough in that range.

You're right.  Because Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, GTAIV, MGS4, Resistence 2, LittleBigPlanet and Killzone 2 all pushed the PS3 to stratospheric sales.

 

Oh wait....

Ok, you two snakes can keep going back and forth, but mentioning those games as a talking point against the PS3 really boils my skin. What games do you think make the Wii sell so well? Mario? Zelda? Metroid? Pikmin? Super Smash? Other staple 1st party game? I've said it before and I'll say it again: If those games were so great, why were the GCN and N64 in dead last in their respective generations? Those games' Wii iterations can't possibly be the selling point, so it has to be other games and the lure of the Wiimote that makes it sell. Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Music, stuff like that are making it sell....but if you're going to talk up the Wii because of those games, and talk down about the PS3 because of the above mentioned games, you need a reality check

Then why are the Wii iterations selling better then the GC versions and even SMG is the highest rated game this gen :P

And yes usually it is some mass appeal catch to reel people in, usually in marketing, Nintendo has just done it better this generation and Wii is the IT item like Playstation was the past 2 gens.



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BMaker11 on 27 May 2009
Viper1 said:
BMaker11 said:
Viper1 said:

You're right.  Because Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, GTAIV, MGS4, Resistence 2, LittleBigPlanet and Killzone 2 all pushed the PS3 to stratospheric sales.

 

Oh wait....

Ok, you two snakes can keep going back and forth, but mentioning those games as a talking point against the PS3 really boils my skin. What games do you think make the Wii sell so well? Mario? Zelda? Metroid? Pikmin? Super Smash? Other staple 1st party game? I've said it before and I'll say it again: If those games were so great, why were the GCN and N64 in dead last in their respective generations? Those games' Wii iterations can't possibly be the selling point, so it has to be other games and the lure of the Wiimote that makes it sell. Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Music, stuff like that are making it sell....but if you're going to talk up the Wii because of those games, and talk down about the PS3 because of the above mentioned games, you need a reality check

Oh please show me in this thread, or any thread, where I said those Wii iterations of franchise games are the reason Wii sells so well.  Please find it because Im, having difficulty doing so.

 

However, you've unwittingly helped my point.  If continued releases of the same old software are not what makes a console sell at great levels then his assertion that upcoming PS3 games will enhance sales greatly falls apart.

 

 

I guess I jumped the gun, but mocking that great lineup of games by bringing up PS3 saleshad to have you question why the Wii sells so well, right? Even the OP said that great software is what makes the hardware sell, and arguably, the only "great software" that the Wii has is the same games that had the GCN and N64 in last place. So it must be this new stuff that's making it sell...even though it doesn't compare to the PS3 or 360 lineups.

I'm thinking about 3 steps ahead...otherwise: why do you think the Wii sells so well, if the PS3 doesn't sell well, comparatively, with its' great games?



Viper1 on 27 May 2009
BMaker11 said:
Viper1 said:

Oh please show me in this thread, or any thread, where I said those Wii iterations of franchise games are the reason Wii sells so well.  Please find it because Im, having difficulty doing so.

 

However, you've unwittingly helped my point.  If continued releases of the same old software are not what makes a console sell at great levels then his assertion that upcoming PS3 games will enhance sales greatly falls apart.

 

 

I guess I jumped the gun, but mocking that great lineup of games by bringing up PS3 saleshad to have you question why the Wii sells so well, right? Even the OP said that great software is what makes the hardware sell, and arguably, the only "great software" that the Wii has is the same games that had the GCN and N64 in last place. So it must be this new stuff that's making it sell...even though it doesn't compare to the PS3 or 360 lineups.

I'm thinking about 3 steps ahead...otherwise: why do you think the Wii sells so well, if the PS3 doesn't sell well, comparatively, with its' great games?

Good sales are a culmination of many factors.   Software is certainly one of them but you cannot rely on it solely as has been suggested by many in this thread.  

I brought up past software hits as a means to show how hardware sales are not as directly relevant to software only.  



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BMaker11 on 27 May 2009
MaxwellGT2000 said:
BMaker11 said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
theRepublic said:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2202853

     How long did it take the Wii to catch the 360?  It seems like it didn't take it anywhere near three years.

With dramatically better exclusives on PS3 than 360 the PS3 could start to overtake the 360 much quicker than you speculate.  Especially if there aren't any significant games or only a few Rare games being placed on the 360 at the same time the PS3 is making up the majority of those sales.

But it's about PS3, not Wii.

When PS3 starts selling like Wii at its best, then you might have a point.


     It might not be selling as rapidly as Wii at that point in time but when you have God of War III, new games from Insomniac, and other PS3 studios, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII, Versus XIIII, (especially if they get exclusive Kingdom Hearts 3), Kojima's next projects, and the other exclusives I've mentioned here, plus almost the same games that the 360 gets from Western developers while games like Gears 3, Fable 3 etc, are headed to 720, then PS3 would be selling well enough in that range.

You're right.  Because Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, GTAIV, MGS4, Resistence 2, LittleBigPlanet and Killzone 2 all pushed the PS3 to stratospheric sales.

 

Oh wait....

Ok, you two snakes can keep going back and forth, but mentioning those games as a talking point against the PS3 really boils my skin. What games do you think make the Wii sell so well? Mario? Zelda? Metroid? Pikmin? Super Smash? Other staple 1st party game? I've said it before and I'll say it again: If those games were so great, why were the GCN and N64 in dead last in their respective generations? Those games' Wii iterations can't possibly be the selling point, so it has to be other games and the lure of the Wiimote that makes it sell. Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Music, stuff like that are making it sell....but if you're going to talk up the Wii because of those games, and talk down about the PS3 because of the above mentioned games, you need a reality check

Then why are the Wii iterations selling better then the GC versions and even SMG is the highest rated game this gen :P

And yes usually it is some mass appeal catch to reel people in, usually in marketing, Nintendo has just done it better this generation and Wii is the IT item like Playstation was the past 2 gens.

I'm sure selling about million more than the previous versions has something to do with the userbase being significantly higher. And no, SMG is not, GTA4 is...but even still. I'm pretty sure alot of those outlets gave out 100s to both games because they were afraid to do otherwise.

But hey, if it's the marketing that's making the Wii sell so well, I'll concede. But don't ever bring up the games discussion when talking about Wii vs. PS3



MaxwellGT2000 on 27 May 2009
BMaker11 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
BMaker11 said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
theRepublic said:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2202853

     How long did it take the Wii to catch the 360?  It seems like it didn't take it anywhere near three years.

With dramatically better exclusives on PS3 than 360 the PS3 could start to overtake the 360 much quicker than you speculate.  Especially if there aren't any significant games or only a few Rare games being placed on the 360 at the same time the PS3 is making up the majority of those sales.

But it's about PS3, not Wii.

When PS3 starts selling like Wii at its best, then you might have a point.


     It might not be selling as rapidly as Wii at that point in time but when you have God of War III, new games from Insomniac, and other PS3 studios, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII, Versus XIIII, (especially if they get exclusive Kingdom Hearts 3), Kojima's next projects, and the other exclusives I've mentioned here, plus almost the same games that the 360 gets from Western developers while games like Gears 3, Fable 3 etc, are headed to 720, then PS3 would be selling well enough in that range.

You're right.  Because Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, GTAIV, MGS4, Resistence 2, LittleBigPlanet and Killzone 2 all pushed the PS3 to stratospheric sales.

 

Oh wait....

Ok, you two snakes can keep going back and forth, but mentioning those games as a talking point against the PS3 really boils my skin. What games do you think make the Wii sell so well? Mario? Zelda? Metroid? Pikmin? Super Smash? Other staple 1st party game? I've said it before and I'll say it again: If those games were so great, why were the GCN and N64 in dead last in their respective generations? Those games' Wii iterations can't possibly be the selling point, so it has to be other games and the lure of the Wiimote that makes it sell. Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Music, stuff like that are making it sell....but if you're going to talk up the Wii because of those games, and talk down about the PS3 because of the above mentioned games, you need a reality check

Then why are the Wii iterations selling better then the GC versions and even SMG is the highest rated game this gen :P

And yes usually it is some mass appeal catch to reel people in, usually in marketing, Nintendo has just done it better this generation and Wii is the IT item like Playstation was the past 2 gens.

I'm sure selling about million more than the previous versions has something to do with the userbase being significantly higher. And no, SMG is not, GTA4 is...but even still. I'm pretty sure alot of those outlets gave out 100s to both games because they were afraid to do otherwise.

But hey, if it's the marketing that's making the Wii sell so well, I'll concede. But don't ever bring up the games discussion when talking about Wii vs. PS3

No not really, GTAIV is lower then SMG

WII Super Mario Galaxy
Nintendo, 2007		 97.28%
73 Reviews
SNES Super Mario World
Nintendo, 1991		 96.70%
5 Reviews
GC Metroid Prime
Retro Studios/Nintendo, 2002		 96.33%
87 Reviews
X360 Grand Theft Auto IV
Rockstar North/Rockstar Games, 2008		 96.28%
80 Reviews


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psrock on 27 May 2009
MaxwellGT2000 said:
BMaker11 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
BMaker11 said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
theRepublic said:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2202853

     How long did it take the Wii to catch the 360?  It seems like it didn't take it anywhere near three years.

With dramatically better exclusives on PS3 than 360 the PS3 could start to overtake the 360 much quicker than you speculate.  Especially if there aren't any significant games or only a few Rare games being placed on the 360 at the same time the PS3 is making up the majority of those sales.

But it's about PS3, not Wii.

When PS3 starts selling like Wii at its best, then you might have a point.


     It might not be selling as rapidly as Wii at that point in time but when you have God of War III, new games from Insomniac, and other PS3 studios, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII, Versus XIIII, (especially if they get exclusive Kingdom Hearts 3), Kojima's next projects, and the other exclusives I've mentioned here, plus almost the same games that the 360 gets from Western developers while games like Gears 3, Fable 3 etc, are headed to 720, then PS3 would be selling well enough in that range.

You're right.  Because Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, GTAIV, MGS4, Resistence 2, LittleBigPlanet and Killzone 2 all pushed the PS3 to stratospheric sales.

 

Oh wait...

usic, stuff like that are making it sell....but if you're going to talk up the Wii because of those games, and talk down about the PS3 because of the above mentioned games, you need a reality check

Then why are the Wii iterations selling better then the GC versions and even SMG is the highest rated game this gen :P

And yes usually it is some mass appeal catch to reel people in, usually in marketing, Nintendo has just done it better this generation and Wii is the IT item like Playstation was the past 2 gens.

I'm sure selling about million more than the previous versions has something to do with the userbase being significantly higher. And no, SMG is not, GTA4 is...but even still. I'm pretty sure alot of those outlets gave out 100s to both games because they were afraid to do otherwise.

But hey, if it's the marketing that's making the Wii sell so well, I'll concede. But don't ever bring up the games discussion when talking about Wii vs. PS3

No not really, GTAIV is lower then SMG

WII Super Mario Galaxy
Nintendo, 2007		 97.28%
73 Reviews
SNES Super Mario World
Nintendo, 1991		 96.70%
5 Reviews
GC Metroid Prime
Retro Studios/Nintendo, 2002		 96.33%
87 Reviews
X360 Grand Theft Auto IV
Rockstar North/Rockstar Games, 2008		 96.28%
80 Reviews

THe ps3 VERSION SAYS hi

97.29........LOL



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BMaker11 on 27 May 2009

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/grandtheftauto4



HappySqurriel on 27 May 2009
Daddo Splat said:
Your underestimating how many moms love wiifit and the need for fat kids to be active in America.

thats the Wii secret excercise. motions fun for a week then its wheres off.


3D on its own was fun for a little while back in the early 1990s and then the gimick wore off ...


Just because 3D for the sake of 3D, HD for the sake of HD, or Motion controls for the sake of Motion controls are only enjoyable for a little while doesn't mean that they're going to disappear in favour of something that is arguably lower quality. Just consider that a couple more buttons added to the Wiimote and Nunchuck (or for the buttons to be rearranged) and the inclusion of MotionPlus in the Wiimote and Nunchuck gives you all the functionality of the Wii’s controller, all the functionality of the PS3/XBox 360 controllers and more.



MaxwellGT2000 on 27 May 2009
psrock said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
BMaker11 said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
BMaker11 said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
Viper1 said:
txrattlesnake said:
theRepublic said:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?id=2202853

     How long did it take the Wii to catch the 360?  It seems like it didn't take it anywhere near three years.

With dramatically better exclusives on PS3 than 360 the PS3 could start to overtake the 360 much quicker than you speculate.  Especially if there aren't any significant games or only a few Rare games being placed on the 360 at the same time the PS3 is making up the majority of those sales.

But it's about PS3, not Wii.

When PS3 starts selling like Wii at its best, then you might have a point.


     It might not be selling as rapidly as Wii at that point in time but when you have God of War III, new games from Insomniac, and other PS3 studios, Trico, Final Fantasy XIII, Versus XIIII, (especially if they get exclusive Kingdom Hearts 3), Kojima's next projects, and the other exclusives I've mentioned here, plus almost the same games that the 360 gets from Western developers while games like Gears 3, Fable 3 etc, are headed to 720, then PS3 would be selling well enough in that range.

You're right.  Because Lair, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, GTAIV, MGS4, Resistence 2, LittleBigPlanet and Killzone 2 all pushed the PS3 to stratospheric sales.

 

Oh wait...

usic, stuff like that are making it sell....but if you're going to talk up the Wii because of those games, and talk down about the PS3 because of the above mentioned games, you need a reality check

Then why are the Wii iterations selling better then the GC versions and even SMG is the highest rated game this gen :P

And yes usually it is some mass appeal catch to reel people in, usually in marketing, Nintendo has just done it better this generation and Wii is the IT item like Playstation was the past 2 gens.

I'm sure selling about million more than the previous versions has something to do with the userbase being significantly higher. And no, SMG is not, GTA4 is...but even still. I'm pretty sure alot of those outlets gave out 100s to both games because they were afraid to do otherwise.

But hey, if it's the marketing that's making the Wii sell so well, I'll concede. But don't ever bring up the games discussion when talking about Wii vs. PS3

No not really, GTAIV is lower then SMG

WII Super Mario Galaxy
Nintendo, 2007		 97.28%
73 Reviews
SNES Super Mario World
Nintendo, 1991		 96.70%
5 Reviews
GC Metroid Prime
Retro Studios/Nintendo, 2002		 96.33%
87 Reviews
X360 Grand Theft Auto IV
Rockstar North/Rockstar Games, 2008		 96.28%
80 Reviews

THe ps3 VERSION SAYS hi

97.29........LOL

With significantly lower number of reviews then either the 360 version or SMG. 



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Wii Friend Code - 5882 9717 7391 0918 (PM me if you add me), PSN - MaxwellGT2000, XBL - BlkKniteCecil, MaxwellGT2000

psrock on 27 May 2009

Man, you posted Super Mario world with 5 reviews and you are arguing number of reviews. Look how many reviews Zelda OCARINA OF TIME have and people claim it to be the best ever game.



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