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TruckOSaurus on 19 May 2009
Trollinator said:
People don't really like old games. They simply feel as if they like old games because of the warm fuzzy feeling they get due to nostalgia.

The fact of the matter is that everything continues to evolve for the better. Nothing from back in the day is as good as what we have now. If you got a kid that had never played a video game before to play Mario Galaxy and then Super Mario Bros. for the NES he'd probably feel like vomiting from his eyes when the older game came on the screen, and he'd think that a 2-button controller is something designed for people with mental disabilities.

It's like when I have to listen to my Grandpa tell me how babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time, or Gordie Howe is the greatest hockey player of all time, and how the games were so much better back then. Gimme a fucking break. Babe Ruth was a fat drunken pig that wouldn't make a triple-A team today, and Gordie Howe could barely skate backwards.

People simply associate old games, sports, etc with the happy feelings they experienced during that time. People think Super Mario Bros is a great game because it was great for it's time, and they had a blast playing it. It doesn't hold up today, though, that's just a fact. No old game does.

You people all seem to think that you're obligated to say that older games are better the same way sports fans feel obligated to put a fat pig like Babe Ruth or a coke addicted racist wife beater like Ty Cobb up on pedestals.

I don't care what any of you liars say, if you could only chose one game to play for the rest of your life it would not be a game from the 16 bit era. You'd end up falling into a boredom induced coma at some point. You'd want a game like World of Warcraft, Halo 3, Killzone 2 or something else where you can interact with other people and every match/dugeon, etc. has the possiblility of turning out different than the last.

Now you can all flame me in defiance, as you try to reassure yourselves that you really do love 16-bit crap more than you enjoy todays technical and innovative masterpieces.

Living up to your username I see.

 



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Bitmap Frogs on 19 May 2009

Because they didn't need an army to make them and hundreds of man-hours to change anything, old games had a lot more polish in general. There are some games still made to high standards, but as they've become horribly expensive we don't get many of these. A decade ago iterating a level to fine tune it was way way cheaper so more developers could afford it.





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Chris Hu on 19 May 2009
Trollinator said:
People don't really like old games. They simply feel as if they like old games because of the warm fuzzy feeling they get due to nostalgia.

The fact of the matter is that everything continues to evolve for the better. Nothing from back in the day is as good as what we have now. If you got a kid that had never played a video game before to play Mario Galaxy and then Super Mario Bros. for the NES he'd probably feel like vomiting from his eyes when the older game came on the screen, and he'd think that a 2-button controller is something designed for people with mental disabilities.

It's like when I have to listen to my Grandpa tell me how babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time, or Gordie Howe is the greatest hockey player of all time, and how the games were so much better back then. Gimme a fucking break. Babe Ruth was a fat drunken pig that wouldn't make a triple-A team today, and Gordie Howe could barely skate backwards.

People simply associate old games, sports, etc with the happy feelings they experienced during that time. People think Super Mario Bros is a great game because it was great for it's time, and they had a blast playing it. It doesn't hold up today, though, that's just a fact. No old game does.

You people all seem to think that you're obligated to say that older games are better the same way sports fans feel obligated to put a fat pig like Babe Ruth or a coke addicted racist wife beater like Ty Cobb up on pedestals.

I don't care what any of you liars say, if you could only chose one game to play for the rest of your life it would not be a game from the 16 bit era. You'd end up falling into a boredom induced coma at some point. You'd want a game like World of Warcraft, Halo 3, Killzone 2 or something else where you can interact with other people and every match/dugeon, etc. has the possiblility of turning out different than the last.

Now you can all flame me in defiance, as you try to reassure yourselves that you really do love 16-bit crap more than you enjoy todays technical and innovative masterpieces.

Epic fail just like your user name LOL.

 



Xen on 19 May 2009

Because every new release, sans an MGS series one, trembles and crumbles in the face of my PS2 collection/PS2 games I wanna buy in the future.

That's especially apparent in JRPG's. What we have today is mostly vomit compared to what we had in the SNES-PS2 eras.

Bottom line: what do we have today? better graphics, weaker gameplay (broad generalization). Ah, and online, which, if I needed, I'd go and find on the PC.



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Trollinator on 19 May 2009
Chris Hu said:
Trollinator said:
People don't really like old games. They simply feel as if they like old games because of the warm fuzzy feeling they get due to nostalgia.

The fact of the matter is that everything continues to evolve for the better. Nothing from back in the day is as good as what we have now. If you got a kid that had never played a video game before to play Mario Galaxy and then Super Mario Bros. for the NES he'd probably feel like vomiting from his eyes when the older game came on the screen, and he'd think that a 2-button controller is something designed for people with mental disabilities.

It's like when I have to listen to my Grandpa tell me how babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time, or Gordie Howe is the greatest hockey player of all time, and how the games were so much better back then. Gimme a fucking break. Babe Ruth was a fat drunken pig that wouldn't make a triple-A team today, and Gordie Howe could barely skate backwards.

People simply associate old games, sports, etc with the happy feelings they experienced during that time. People think Super Mario Bros is a great game because it was great for it's time, and they had a blast playing it. It doesn't hold up today, though, that's just a fact. No old game does.

You people all seem to think that you're obligated to say that older games are better the same way sports fans feel obligated to put a fat pig like Babe Ruth or a coke addicted racist wife beater like Ty Cobb up on pedestals.

I don't care what any of you liars say, if you could only chose one game to play for the rest of your life it would not be a game from the 16 bit era. You'd end up falling into a boredom induced coma at some point. You'd want a game like World of Warcraft, Halo 3, Killzone 2 or something else where you can interact with other people and every match/dugeon, etc. has the possiblility of turning out different than the last.

Now you can all flame me in defiance, as you try to reassure yourselves that you really do love 16-bit crap more than you enjoy todays technical and innovative masterpieces.

Epic fail just like your user name LOL.

 

 

 I may be a troll, but I speak true. I can tell that you realize that I'm right, too, because instead of formulating a coherent rebuttal to my point you had to resort to "Epic fail", "LOL", and other internet buzzwords from 2005.



Trollinator on 19 May 2009

Xen said:

Bottom line: what do we have today? better graphics, weaker gameplay (broad generalization). Ah, and online, which, if I needed, I'd go and find on the PC.

 

 It's hilarious how all of you guys that are praising older games just automatically associate better graphics with worse game play. Totally hilarious, untrue, and bogus assessment. I wasn't aware that heavy doses of nostalgia caused brain damage, but I guess ya learn something new everyday.



Vagabund on 19 May 2009
Trollinator said:
Chris Hu said:
Trollinator said:
People don't really like old games. They simply feel as if they like old games because of the warm fuzzy feeling they get due to nostalgia.

The fact of the matter is that everything continues to evolve for the better. Nothing from back in the day is as good as what we have now. If you got a kid that had never played a video game before to play Mario Galaxy and then Super Mario Bros. for the NES he'd probably feel like vomiting from his eyes when the older game came on the screen, and he'd think that a 2-button controller is something designed for people with mental disabilities.

It's like when I have to listen to my Grandpa tell me how babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time, or Gordie Howe is the greatest hockey player of all time, and how the games were so much better back then. Gimme a fucking break. Babe Ruth was a fat drunken pig that wouldn't make a triple-A team today, and Gordie Howe could barely skate backwards.

People simply associate old games, sports, etc with the happy feelings they experienced during that time. People think Super Mario Bros is a great game because it was great for it's time, and they had a blast playing it. It doesn't hold up today, though, that's just a fact. No old game does.

You people all seem to think that you're obligated to say that older games are better the same way sports fans feel obligated to put a fat pig like Babe Ruth or a coke addicted racist wife beater like Ty Cobb up on pedestals.

I don't care what any of you liars say, if you could only chose one game to play for the rest of your life it would not be a game from the 16 bit era. You'd end up falling into a boredom induced coma at some point. You'd want a game like World of Warcraft, Halo 3, Killzone 2 or something else where you can interact with other people and every match/dugeon, etc. has the possiblility of turning out different than the last.

Now you can all flame me in defiance, as you try to reassure yourselves that you really do love 16-bit crap more than you enjoy todays technical and innovative masterpieces.

Epic fail just like your user name LOL.

 

 

 I may be a troll, but I speak true. I can tell that you realize that I'm right, too, because instead of formulating a coherent rebuttal to my point you had to resort to "Epic fail", "LOL", and other internet buzzwords from 2005.

 

Nostalgia sure is a factor, but some games are just timeless and good. I already had my Dreamcast when I finally discovered Shining Force I/II, and daaaamn I LOVED these games... and I still do - because the gameplay wasn't just better than 90% of the games at that time, but also better than 90% of the games now.



dib8rman on 19 May 2009

It's not just game play it's also presentation and valuable content.
Games today are conceived along a different dimension on what is viewed as valued within it's content. The issue isn't if such a change works but rather if it was wanted and can it be learned. The discourse is with relativity versus nostalgia.

There is a fine line between the two but peering deeper into what nostalgia is in this context reveals that the perceived values have changed, and while the definition of the content may remain the same the value which isn’t as subjective as some may think has changed.

The reason why may be simple; games today aren’t made to appeal to the gamers of yesterday or game developers of today are making games for tomorrow how does that work when no one can see the future?

By following footsteps whose footsteps? =)

That’s when the change occurred and why games of yesterday are viewed in such a light.



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Torillian on 19 May 2009

@Trollinator
You can have a differing opinion from everyone else but keep it civil, that bit about brain damage is bordering on flaming.

OT: It is a combination of things from nostalgia to some older games truly being great. When things were new and there was alot of new ground left to discover and new things left to be done there were alot of games that came out and changed everything. This is harder to do today so many games made these days, while perhaps being of the same quality of those games that set standards back in the day, they will not be remembered as fondly because they weren't the first.

Games on average are better in every subjective measurement than they were back in the day. There is no general decline of games that many seem to think, they just aren't as exciting as they were back then because they aren't new anymore.




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