That doesn't prove anything. You just listed a bunch of games. I could name 20 casual games on the PS3, doesn't mean they sold well.
| BladeOfGod said: Dead Space on Wii? |
Yes - it's on rails shooter 
They are not porting the ps3/pc/x360 game but instead making diffrent one just using the already known Deadspace IP.
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| MontanaHatchet said: I don't hold a strong opinion one way or another about this issue, I really don't care. But could you Nintendo fans stop grasping for straws regarding this issue? I mean, XiaoMay just said that Guitar Hero and Rock Band are core games. Seriously, what? And the thread creator basically ran out of games on his list, so he was forced to use games we've never heard about. I mean, "That Muramasa game?" And I guess you could pride yourself on a couple ports that are core games, but I wouldn't. The PS3 and 360 get plenty of casual games, and some of them sell well. I'm sure a list of casual games on the PS3 would tower above any list of hardcore games on the Wii. Doesn't make a difference, since people should just stop being insecure and play their games. |
"That Muramasa game" probably means this one:
http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=33609®ion=All
Altrough this is example I wouldn't use to point out how great core games sell on Wii :D
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Zlejedi said:
Yes - it's on rails shooter |
Lies! It's a guided first person experience!
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| waron said: we see new core games(there's no such thing as hardcore game cause game cannot be devoted to itself) cause core games are selling very good which means there's a market for them(new NFS game is core title on the wii no matter what people say). and yes core games are selling on the wii - wii games don't need to sell in millions to bring developer/publisher profit - most of wii projects have less than 8mln$ as a whole budget for the game development and advertisment. the biggest wii projects had 13mln$ so far for the whole budget. average ps360 game have 30-35mln$ budget just for development costs while biggest ps360 projects have 70+mln$ development costs. see the difference? |
Can you give me the source of your information about game budgets?
Maybe avarage Wii game budget is 8mln$ but avarage Wii game looks like ps2 or old xbox game.
| rafichamp said: What do they all have in common? Very low budget games. |
your an idiot, get lost. you have no idea what u talking about eh?
It's hard to ignore the fan base of the Wii and the potential of always making your money back even if you don't sell a million copies.
Well, Japan developers are clearly supporting the wii with big games, westerners not so much.
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| 11/20/09 04:25 | makingmusic476 | Warning | Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.) |
Overlord is hard-core?
Playing and finishing the first gave me more the impression that it was pretty kiddy.
Though it IS pretty cruel.
chelcho_ said:
Can you give me the source of your information about game budgets? Maybe avarage Wii game budget is 8mln$ but avarage Wii game looks like ps2 or old xbox game. |
well you can often find many development costs for specific games(not average).
i remember that Turok development costs were 20mln$,
GTA4 budget was 100mln$(it was even said on vgchartz in one of the old news),
Sony CEO said in one of the interviews(after LBP went gold) that their biggest ps3 games have to sell 1mln$ to break even and start making profit,
ubisoft offers only average 3mln$ for development costs for ds game and 5-6mln$ for wii games(it was stated in interview when they said that they are funding hd projects from wii and ds games profit),
Halo 2 development budget was about 24mln$,
besides just look at the fact how many people work in some of the development studios known for making biggest games this gen:
Assassin's Creed development team - 450people(on single game!),
EA Canada - 1000+people working currently on Sims 3,
EA Digital - 200+ people(Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 1943),
EA Montreal - 700 people(NFS Nitro, Spore Hero, Army of Two 2),
Guerilla games during Killzone 2 development had almost 500 people working on this game in crucial moments,
Rare - 200+ people(working currently on 2 projects),
oh andaverage ps2 development budget WAS about 5-8mln just like average wii game now so no wonder they look like ps2 games.
| MontanaHatchet said: I don't hold a strong opinion one way or another about this issue, I really don't care. But could you Nintendo fans stop grasping for straws regarding this issue? I mean, XiaoMay just said that Guitar Hero and Rock Band are core games. Seriously, what? And the thread creator basically ran out of games on his list, so he was forced to use games we've never heard about. I mean, "That Muramasa game?" And I guess you could pride yourself on a couple ports that are core games, but I wouldn't. The PS3 and 360 get plenty of casual games, and some of them sell well. I'm sure a list of casual games on the PS3 would tower above any list of hardcore games on the Wii. Doesn't make a difference, since people should just stop being insecure and play their games. |
Well, Guitar Hero IS a game for hardcore gamers, as well as a Street Fighter game... Play it on Expert mode and come back here. The fact that's it s mass appealing doesnt make it any less appealing to hardcore gamers : tournaments, teams, etc etc.
Also, "The Murasama Game" means the game made by the so-called creators of tOdin Sphere, meaning a niche Japanese Action RPG, with 2D beautiful japanese art style. Yeah, it's for hardcore gamers, and the fact that you never heard of it only show your ignorance on the subject.
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