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shams said:
Sounds awesome, about time :)

Last weekend a kid came up to me, all excited he had bought an R4. I laughed at him, and told him to bin it - and that new games wouldn't work with it.

no worries old ones too and some r4 are updateable =P

 



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gergroy said:

...how is that taking away our rights and freedoms? ...

 

"...No fair use. No purchase and resell. No private copies. No sharing. No backup. No swapping. No mix tapes. No privacy. No commons. No control over our computers. No control over our electronic devices. The conversion of our homes into apparatus to monitor our interaction with published works and web sites..." - What is DRM? Digital Restrictions Management

 



You cannot decide what "freedoms" you are entitled to, that is the right of the owner of the rights (developer/publisher.)

But I am curious, since you say piracy can be prevented without taking away your ability to do these three things, how?



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liquidninja said:

gergroy said:

...how is that taking away our rights and freedoms? ...

 

"...No fair use. No purchase and resell. No private copies. No sharing. No backup. No swapping. No mix tapes. No privacy. No commons. No control over our computers. No control over our electronic devices. The conversion of our homes into apparatus to monitor our interaction with published works and web sites..." - What is DRM? Digital Restrictions Management

 

nice out of context quote.

 



lapsed_gamer said:
You cannot decide what "freedoms" you are entitled to, that is the right of the owner of the rights (developer/publisher.)

But I am curious, since you say piracy can be prevented without taking away your ability to do these three things, how?

Wrong, the rulling government decides what "freedoms" I'm entitled to.

Piracy can never be prevented but providing something people want to pay for is the better way to encourage sales.

I can't believe anyone would knowingly trade their freedoms just so companies can get assured sales.



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shams said:
Sounds awesome, about time :)

Last weekend a kid came up to me, all excited he had bought an R4. I laughed at him, and told him to bin it - and that new games wouldn't work with it.

 

 DSi flashcards are now hitting the market like a month after the US release of the DSi. I challange anyone who thinks this will have any sort of significant effect on piracy to wake the fuck up and realize this will do nothing. Give it a couple weeks for a rom patching utility to be released.

Shams, do you just blindly support pro-nintendo news without actually reading them? I mean wow.



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DSi flashcards are now hitting the market like a month after the US release of the DSi. I challange anyone who thinks this will have any sort of significant effect on piracy to wake the fuck up and realize this will do nothing. Give it a couple weeks for a rom patching utility to be released.

Do you just blindly support pro-nintendo news without actually reading them? I mean wow.
I doubt anyone expects this to have any long term effects to the NDS piracy world. But it's there, something is at least being done. People are at least trying to fight.



How technical is your game?

liquidninja said:
lapsed_gamer said:
You cannot decide what "freedoms" you are entitled to, that is the right of the owner of the rights (developer/publisher.)

But I am curious, since you say piracy can be prevented without taking away your ability to do these three things, how?

Wrong, the rulling government decides what "freedoms" I'm entitled to.

Piracy can never be prevented but providing something people want to pay for is the better way to encourage sales.

I can't believe anyone would knowingly trade their freedoms just so companies can get assured sales.

 

So now you are saying it cannot be stoped and the only way to to curb it is to make a good product. Doesn't that encourage piracy? "Oh wait, it is a good game, let's copy that other one instead, I heard it is really bad!"



"You can never jump away from Conclusions. Getting back is not so easy. That's why we're so terribly crowded here."

Canby - The Phantom Tollbooth

I don't see how this is any different than what Nintendo, Ubisoft and especially Square-Enix have done already. They write in a code that can tell when the original cartridge is in. If not fucked up shit happens. In some instances, the DS can't read the save data and won't be able to leave the loading screen because of it. In others, like Dragon Quest V and New Super Mario Bros., the game will glitch in funny ways to keep you from advancing, while still letting you play. In NSMB, Mario starts off as giant Mario and he can't be changed or get smaller ever, so once you hit the second level, you get stuck in the first section of the underground level. In DQV, there's a part when you first travel by ship where the game will endlessly sail in the ocean and never reach land. Shit is hilarious, but each ROM has a patch available within 24-48 hours of release that can fix the mistakes or has an Action Replay code that can fix it. This will be no different, just more of the same.

It is an annoyance though, because I like backing my games up and having them all in one place instead of carrying carts around like a doofus.

I do recommend everyone get a flash cart though. It has features the DS should have had from day one and still doesn't. Homebrew turns the DS into an incredible tool like an organizer, downloadable maps from Google, better web browser, IRC channels, e-book reader, comic book reader, music creator, MP3 player, movie player, electronic drum set, amongst others. Plus a few homebrew games have been simply amazing and better than many retail games, like Still Alive(a 2D version of Portal, just like the PC game) and Video Games Hero(8bit MIDI video game tunes from FF, Mario, Zelda, etc.) with Guitar Hero gameplay. It even works with the guitar grip that Activision made.



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If people value the product enough they'll pay for it. Piracy won't matter if your product is still selling.