The EyeToy sold more than Okami on the Playstation 2.
You should write Sony an angry letter. :P
KylieDog said:
Nintendo. Don't try and deny all its games haven't been dumbed down/casualised this gen. Though to be fair it didn't start to happen this gen. |
All?
Galaxy is the hardest 3-D Mario.
Metroid Prime 3 and Twilight Princess weren't dumbed down at all.
The new Punch-Out!! is going to be harder and longer than any Punch-Out!! before it with the defend your title mode and the challenges.
| Zucas said: Well no it isn't wrong to hate anything as we all differ on things. However, it is kinda silly to take an entire group of games and immediately associate them with one thing and then decide to hate them. Even further to cherry pick the definition which conveniently leads out so called "hardcore" genres (racers, many shooters, some action games) to keep them out of the pot. I think what people need to understand that the idea of casual and hardcore is subjective to being with and in the end it eventually turns into elitist versus mainstream versus new entry. We should take pride in being long time gamers but remember that we started off the same way they did buying games that were "safe" from an outside standpoint. And we should also remember that not everyone is going to want to play a 50 hour RPG in 3 days. Sometimes people just want to sit down for 10-20 minutes, bowl a few rounds to relieve stress, and then go watch some TV. I think it is great that gaming has been able to open up to the masses and when that happens, under capitalism, developers are going to try and support as many people as they can. It brings more games to the industry and more opportunities to have better games. I'm not saying you have to like the things like Gardening Mama or whatever it may be but it is nice to know that the industry is working to expand to bring games out for everyone. You don't have to like them or even buy them, but know that there are people who do want them. Why should we judge them for what they want to play? There are some elitist gamers who look down on people who call themselves hardcore and play nothing but shooters (I do it sometimes haha). No one likes that feeling. Everyone just wants to know they can enjoy the games they like. So no it isn't wrong to hate "casual" games, but I do think there should be an understanding and a certain line of respect towards the idea and what it is trying to do. But I'd even further like to break down the ideas of casual and hardcore and just keep gaming as something for everyone with many different options. |
Yes, thats why I writed "I'm not saying that gamers who like these games are wrong, its just me)" ,
"
Yes its not wrong for kids to buy these games and familys to play with their children, or playing some of these games on partys but when adults come here to defend them with mega robots and flamethrowers.."
"Yes, its not wrong for kids to buy these games and familys to play with their children, or playing some of these games on partys but when adults come to defend them with mega robots and flamethrowers.."
"Yes, for some people gaming should only be fun. Its indeed fun to play Brain training and Wii sports sometimes, but playing only these would make me insane."
Take my love, take my land..
There is nothing wrong with hating casual games, even though the fans of certain console try to bash people who hate that kind of games.
Simulacrum said:
Then games like these are left in shadows, when Nintendo only advertises games like above. |
Most of those you listed aren't even Nintendo games. If a 3rd party didn't advertise their game, why are you chiding Nintendo for it?
The rEVOLution is not being televised
| KylieDog said: Nintendo didn't make MP3, Retro Studios did. |
Retro Studios IS Nintendo. Just like Intelligent Systems, Nintendo Software Planning and Development, Nintendo EAD, Nintendo Software Technology, Monolith Soft, Hal Laboratory, Project Sora and Brownie Brown.
The rEVOLution is not being televised
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retro_Studios
Nintendo Second Party, and Metroid Prime series was watched over by Miyamoto's eyes, ready to shoot laser beams up their asses at any time. Well, they are first party now btw.
btw i call bull shit on not dying in galaxy once kylie, you obviously haven't played the fucking game or haven't played every level, that is just a big pile of crap.
Honestly, were Nintendo games ever really that "HC" in the first place?
@OP: I can't really say that attaching powerful emotions to something is flat-out wrong, but hating games that don't cater to your tastes seems really stupid.
Besides, there will always be games for the enthusiast crowd even if they won't dominate the market, as people have already said.
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It's not casual games that will destroy the hardcore gaming market. It's hardcore games costing too much money that they can't make a profit.
As long as there is money to be made... games of a genre will be made.
If there isn't any money they're... you're in trouble.
If it wasn't for the Wii and casual games this generation... just look where profits would be... it would be scary. You'd probably be seeing a lot of articles about how a great 2nd crash was coming.
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