| Lord Flashheart said: Shh! Bubbles. If he had wanted facts he would have used them. |
You have the best sig ive ever seen in my entire life.
Blackadder FTW!
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| Lord Flashheart said: Shh! Bubbles. If he had wanted facts he would have used them. |
You have the best sig ive ever seen in my entire life.
Blackadder FTW!
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Carl2291 said:
You have the best sig ive ever seen in my entire life. Blackadder FTW! |
Ok chums, let's doooooo it. As the bishop said to the netball team.
So what is the OP going to do when the PS3 posts an even larger loss than the Xbox 360 did this quarter?
The entire post was full of fail.
"If you've got them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."
Quote by- The Imortal John Wayne, the original BADASS!

360 is making a profit
360 is on its way to recoup its losses
360 is outselling the PS3
360 is selling faster and is going to get even cheaper to produce
It looks like MS have everything covered, welcome to 2009
Let me attempt to make sense out of this, and make it of value more than just fanboy ammo being fired, that is bent and twisted, and trying to be used to drive in the heart of XBox fan(boys):
1. Let's say that the PS3 is now making a small profit currently. I don't see anything larger than say a $10 profit per machine, assuming the original poster is correct.
2. I can't see anyone arguing that the 360 costs more to make. It HAD issues with the RROD, but is there any reason why the unit is still having problems to the degree it had? Can ANYONE say this truthfully? The 360 is now on its third revision, and the system now seems to be more reliable on what I read, and runs cooler. So, let's say, for balance, that the problems are nearly ironed out. Also, let me go with what the original poster had said, that MS can either make $$$ or outsell the PS3. I take that now to be that it will be profitable (if not now) at its current price point), so I will say the problems are nearly ironed out.
3. The 360 is currently outselling the PS3 at a lower price point.
4. The PS3 is working to try to get profitable now. The division is looking, this year, to finally to start turn a profit.
5. Assuming there is a small profit margin is made now, if Sony cuts price, then they will again be at a loss per unit sold. The price still won't match what the 360 is now. Even dropping to $300 for the least expensive unit will put the system still $100 more expensive than the least expensive 360 unit.
6. The PS3 could then cut prices and outsell the PS3, but Microsoft loses money.
Conclusion I am reaching here, based on what the original poster wrote, and of value for the discussion of the videogame business is:
Apparently both companies have to have a price war to be able to outsell the other, and the only way for them to do this is lose money (or they make money if they don't want to). If the industry has dropped to this place, then there is definite potential for a crash here. This is not a good place to be in at all. It means Nintendo is the only one in a place to hold out.
Ok, I didn't even factor in revenues from other sources either, like Live subscription, and Micropayments over the Internet here. I have to avoid doing that, because I don't see the original poster factoring these in either.
| damndl0ser said: So what is the OP going to do when the PS3 posts an even larger loss than the Xbox 360 did this quarter? The entire post was full of fail. |
Unless both systems are playing brinksmanship, where they can either make money, or outsell the other. The original poster doesn't consider this as an option, just runs worse case scenario for Microsoft, and best case scenario for Sony.
| richardhutnik said: Unless both systems are playing brinksmanship, where they can either make money, or outsell the other. The original poster doesn't consider this as an option, just runs worse case scenario for Microsoft, and best case scenario for Sony.
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All of what you put sums up his OP but the last part clearly shows how he thinks.
This is one of the most incisive comments I have read.


richardhutnik said:
Unless both systems are playing brinksmanship, where they can either make money, or outsell the other. The original poster doesn't consider this as an option, just runs worse case scenario for Microsoft, and best case scenario for Sony.
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It has happened before in the video game business, best case scenario for Nintendo and worse case scenario for sony.... I just wanted to mention nintendo for the hell of it! 
A profit thread isn't complete without nintendo. 
Also I think the OP needs to calm down, tone it down.

Very good thread, and its the truth too. Sony was losing $45 on the ps3 TWO YEARS AGO, by now they are making profits, and once the 45nm chips come in, they will drop the price.
Lord Flashheart said:
All of what you put sums up his OP but the last part clearly shows how he thinks. |
That is prototypical of how the mind of a fanboy works. The problem with your mind in this state is reality almost NEVER turns this way. The sad part here, for the existential state of the fanboy, is that, unlike the case of the company marketing weasel, the fanboy doesn't get paid for the efforts to spin. They actually end up PAYING money to the company who matches the shape of how their mind has been bent.