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ssj12 on 19 September 2007
WiteoutKing said:
So, how many saviors is this, now? Three? Four? Five? Cause, you know, Lair was such a savior. As was Warhawk. And Motorstorm. And Resistance.

No one game will save the PS3. If Sony actually thinks that, they're never going to break out of their spiral. It takes a set of quality games in close proximity.

 thats not generally true. Microsoft really truly cares about 1 game (Halo) and they arent doing that bad.



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twesterm on 19 September 2007
ssj12 said:
WiteoutKing said:
So, how many saviors is this, now? Three? Four? Five? Cause, you know, Lair was such a savior. As was Warhawk. And Motorstorm. And Resistance.

No one game will save the PS3. If Sony actually thinks that, they're never going to break out of their spiral. It takes a set of quality games in close proximity.

thats not generally true. Microsoft really truly cares about 1 game (Halo) and they arent doing that bad.


Even if that were true, Microsoft isn't in a state where people usually think they need saving (in America at least). Microsoft has also put a lot of stock into other games besides Halo: Gears of War, Bioshock, and Mass Effect to name a few. They just put as much as they do into Halo because they know they'll get their money back and more. I guarantee you that if Mass Effect turns out to be huge, they will hype the hell out of the next two.

 

WiteoutKing on 19 September 2007
Zucas said:
Takes more than one game to win a generation. If that were the case then Super Mario 64 would have won the N64 that generation.

 And Ocarina of Time would have buried Sony forever.  One game does not a victor make.

 

ssj: Halo put Microsoft on the map when it was too obscure to get a lot of attention.  It went from nothing to someting.  Sony is in the opposite position.  Everyone knows about the PS3, and interest is fading away.  One game on its own doesn't stop that. 



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

rocketpig on 19 September 2007
twesterm said:
Even if that were true, Microsoft isn't in a state where people usually think they need saving (in America at least). Microsoft has also put a lot of stock into other games besides Halo: Gears of War, Bioshock, and Mass Effect to name a few. They just put as much as they do into Halo because they know they'll get their money back and more. I guarantee you that if Mass Effect turns out to be huge, they will hype the hell out of the next two.

It won't take that long... They'll be hyping Mass Effect this November. With GTA out of the way and LO releasing in January, Mass Effect is the 360's big November weapon, especially with the early reports coming in on the game. It looks like it might be in the running with BioShock and SMG for GoTY status.

 




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makingmusic476 on 19 September 2007
WiteoutKing said:
Zucas said:
Takes more than one game to win a generation. If that were the case then Super Mario 64 would have won the N64 that generation.

And Ocarina of Time would have buried Sony forever. One game does not a victor make.

 

ssj: Halo put Microsoft on the map when it was too obscure to get a lot of attention. It went from nothing to someting. Sony is in the opposite position. Everyone knows about the PS3, and interest is fading away. One game on its own doesn't stop that.


 OoT did bury Sony, imo.  The N64 was infinitely better than the ps1 just because of SM64, MK64, OoT, and MM.  I don't care what the sales charts say. :P



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jhlennon1 on 19 September 2007
makingmusic476 said:
WiteoutKing said:
Zucas said:
Takes more than one game to win a generation. If that were the case then Super Mario 64 would have won the N64 that generation.

And Ocarina of Time would have buried Sony forever. One game does not a victor make.

 

ssj: Halo put Microsoft on the map when it was too obscure to get a lot of attention. It went from nothing to someting. Sony is in the opposite position. Everyone knows about the PS3, and interest is fading away. One game on its own doesn't stop that.


 OoT did bury Sony, imo.  The N64 was infinitely better than the ps1 just because of SM64, MK64, OoT, and MM.  I don't care what the sales charts say. :P


OOT would have buried Sony is Square didn't release Final Fantasy VII which set the PS on the path of greatness.



makingmusic476 on 19 September 2007
jhlennon1 said:
makingmusic476 said:
WiteoutKing said:
Zucas said:
Takes more than one game to win a generation. If that were the case then Super Mario 64 would have won the N64 that generation.

And Ocarina of Time would have buried Sony forever. One game does not a victor make.

 

ssj: Halo put Microsoft on the map when it was too obscure to get a lot of attention. It went from nothing to someting. Sony is in the opposite position. Everyone knows about the PS3, and interest is fading away. One game on its own doesn't stop that.


OoT did bury Sony, imo. The N64 was infinitely better than the ps1 just because of SM64, MK64, OoT, and MM. I don't care what the sales charts say. :P


OOT would have buried Sony is Square didn't release Final Fantasy VII which set the PS on the path of greatness.


 Indeed.



Onimusha12 on 19 September 2007
kn said:
All the "PS3 Savior" articles are awful. They sound desperate in the sense that they imply "without this, the PS3 is doomed". It's contrived BS as no one game will make or break a console. It is a combination of things... third party support, first party titles, breadth of games, pricing, accessories, and so on...

 You sir are a man worth praising.



WiteoutKing on 19 September 2007
jhlennon1 said:
makingmusic476 said:
WiteoutKing said:
Zucas said:
Takes more than one game to win a generation. If that were the case then Super Mario 64 would have won the N64 that generation.

And Ocarina of Time would have buried Sony forever. One game does not a victor make.

 

ssj: Halo put Microsoft on the map when it was too obscure to get a lot of attention. It went from nothing to someting. Sony is in the opposite position. Everyone knows about the PS3, and interest is fading away. One game on its own doesn't stop that.


OoT did bury Sony, imo. The N64 was infinitely better than the ps1 just because of SM64, MK64, OoT, and MM. I don't care what the sales charts say. :P


OOT would have buried Sony is Square didn't release Final Fantasy VII which set the PS on the path of greatness.


 I'm inclined to agree with that.  Honestly, Final Fantasy VII was about the only game that could have possibly parried Ocarina of Time, and to the victor went the spoils (and the momentum).



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

leo-j on 19 September 2007

Its going to be FF VII.

Yes its the savior since it saved the ps1 from death :D

And yes one game can save a system, xbox came to beat nintendo.

 

edit:Square enix was the one who lead sony to victory and the ps2 came to be, now will square save the ps3?



 

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