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arsenicazure said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
These Gods are all boring. This game should use older Gods, like Zeus, Odin, Ra, and others. The classic ballers. Why would prophets be fighting gods anyway?

But it seems they covered their own asses by having a version that censors Muhammad's face, right?

Theo van Gogh nods his dead head.

I still don't think murder is a good way to combat the argument that your religion is intolerant and/or sexist.  All that says is "You forgot to mention we're murderers too."

These extremists are idiots and they're ruining everything for all the tolerant Muslims, like the ones here on VGC, and my awesome roommate.



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Demotruk said:
Pakidan, would you support the banning of this game, the removal of it from the internet (assuming it was practicable)?

 

If it was practical, I would support a ban and complete removal of it from the internet. In reality though, this is the internet. I mean, if another serious case like child pornography is still hard to remove from the internet to this day, then it would be near impossible to remove the game.

 

But, if it ends up that it will surface again (which is the more likely case, seeing that the link is in the OP), all I can do is sigh, ignore it and realize just how much it gives me a glimpse of how people, though their intentions were for good, still have a lack of understanding on the basics of other people's culture, and instead of learning, they use their ignorance for a half-ass approach in bridging gaps.



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
arsenicazure said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
These Gods are all boring. This game should use older Gods, like Zeus, Odin, Ra, and others. The classic ballers. Why would prophets be fighting gods anyway?

But it seems they covered their own asses by having a version that censors Muhammad's face, right?

Theo van Gogh nods his dead head.

I still don't think murder is a good way to combat the argument that your religion is intolerant and/or sexist.  All that says is "You forgot to mention we're murderers too."

These extremists are idiots and they're ruining everything for all the tolerant Muslims, like the ones here on VGC, and my awesome roommate.

 

Indeed and I concur.

 

Sorry for bringing in Star Wars (man, that lore covers a lot...no wonder the Force is a religion in some places) but that is why anger is frowned upon...b/c it leads to hate and to the Dark Side.

 

Extremists on all facets of life...including Atheism...is just a terrible way of life.



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Can I ask then, do you also support the recent UN legislation about protecting religions, especially Islam, from mockery and offense?



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richardhutnik said:
Offending people is not art. Trying to do something for the sake of offending for its own sake, is not being an artist. Odds are also, as a game, it will suck. It will have a brain-dead AI for the fighters and likely poor graphics. So, now we have a new category to add to areas that general suck for games. The first two are: Porn games, and religious games. Now add, political games. I would count this is a religious game, but the creators are far more interested in making a point about intolerance then creating a fun game.

Oh wow, we can show people are intolerant by creating a game that offends them! That scores very few points in my book.

 

Your just ignorant of whats fun, it was a great very fun game. Also porn games are actually pretty fun too. So GTFO.



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pakidan101 said:
bloody swamp said:
pakidan101 said:

I know that they are just flash games or just comics to you guys, but understand that religion is not just religion for us. It is a way of life for us. If you want to make fun of God, fine then go ahead. If you want to poke fun of Jesus Christ, then go ahead and do it in Family Guy, South Park and even in this game. Not to sound like the person defending Britney Spears on Youtube, but leave Muhammad (pbuh) and our beliefs out of it, okay? We take our religion serioiusly (not to say anything about you and your ways, but jokes on our religious beliefs is a no-no).

Isn't Jesus also the 2nd most important prophet in Islam (2nd to Muhammad obviously) ? Shouldn't you also be offended by people depicting a face of Jesus too, especially for caricature ?

 

Muslims don't do caricatures of prophets. But seeing how Christians have a stake in Jesus, there are two reasons why Muslims really can't do anything about it.

 

One is that since Christians have a stake on Jesus and they are the one doing the caricatures, we have little to fight against except just not see it.

 

Second of all, it is a caricature of Jesus Christ. Seeing how we don't believe that Jesus is the Son of God, it is kind of like making fun of someone who didn't exist...in our eyes.

 

I guess in the end of it all, it is like it is okay for you guys to make fun of your religion because it is your religion...you know it, know the things that don't make sense (like Easter) and can make fun of it. That is your right. I don't laugh (much) about those jokes, nor think they are nice, but you guys laugh so it is your right.

 

But to think you have the right to make fun of our religion is really an insult. I mean, since when do you guys understand whe we are coming from? When did you take the time to understand us, our religion, etc.? If you really took the time, none of this would have ever happened...

I guess when you cover your women up, lock them at home, deny them an education, mistreat homosexuals, forbid public display of any affection, gloat at honour killings, - marry off girls when they are children- not even teenagers- then its kinda hard to understand where your coming from. Sure the corrupt west drinks and fornicates. Bohoo. Its called choice. I hope someday the islamic world clearly understands the meaning of that word.

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As a person who has no religion, I find it funny that people here are acting like no other religion has ever done something like this before.

Also if you read the article the game producer points to theMetro UK as the cause of this controversy.

I also find it funny that LBP islamic song was mentioned by a user and said muslims were mad at that. When it was one user on neogaf that messaged sony about it, and no one was actually mad...besides ps3 fans who had to wait longer.



 

ssj12 said:
richardhutnik said:
Offending people is not art. Trying to do something for the sake of offending for its own sake, is not being an artist. Odds are also, as a game, it will suck. It will have a brain-dead AI for the fighters and likely poor graphics. So, now we have a new category to add to areas that general suck for games. The first two are: Porn games, and religious games. Now add, political games. I would count this is a religious game, but the creators are far more interested in making a point about intolerance then creating a fun game.

Oh wow, we can show people are intolerant by creating a game that offends them! That scores very few points in my book.

 

Your just stupid, it was a great very fun game. Also porn games are actually pretty fun too. So GTFO.

Ok, so the game supposedly has this message on how it is supposed to help people understand how religion is often instrumental in how conflicts start?  The game is a Flash knock off of Street Fighter, with the Jerry Springer level inspired message. 

Here it is, for anyone who is interested:

http://www.andkon.com/arcade/adventureaction/faithfighter/


Please state how fun of a game it would be if the religious theme were not there?  By the way, I am sorry you are SO offended by my OPINION you believe I am stupid.  And it is "You're just stupid".  The words you picked refers to a "just stupid" I possess.



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Hey pakidan, if I drew a picture of Muhammad, and put it on my wall, and then on VGC mentioned "oh yeah I drew Muhammad and put him on my wall," would that be an insult to Islam?

I definitely wouldn't be worshiping him as a false idol or anything. I'm an atheist.