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theprof00 on 24 April 2009
gebx said:
JerzeeBalla said:
Pyramid Head said:
when i can download movies in hd why do i need a blu ray player again?

blu ray = laserdisc

cool but not necessary

 

Cause the average person doesnt know how to download HD movies, or any movie for that matter. Or they dont care to. By your logic a lot of things arent necessary. Shoot, video games arent really necessary but we all buy them.

 

The people who don't know how to download movies are the same people who could care less about Blu Ray's....

that's not entirely true. Someone could own a vcr and not know how to record.

 



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Pyramid Head on 24 April 2009
JerzeeBalla said:
Pyramid Head said:
when i can download movies in hd why do i need a blu ray player again?

blu ray = laserdisc

cool but not necessary

 

Cause the average person doesnt know how to download HD movies, or any movie for that matter. Or they dont care to. By your logic a lot of things arent necessary. Shoot, video games arent really necessary but we all buy them.

 

i love your logic, i mention how download movies are easy so why get a blu ray, and you change it to why do we need videogames?

maybe where you are it is difficult, but here in toronto everyones cable box can download any movies with the click of a button, and they tack the charge on your cable bill.  very easy bonehead level interface that my grandmother can use.

it may be tougher where you are, but like i said, here its easy and widespread and advertised on tv all the time.  has to cut into blu ray.



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Kantor on 24 April 2009

Sony didn't want to be first, to begin with.

They wanted to get a slow start, get a small userbase, and then cut costs and reduce the price. There are a few things, however, that they did not foresee:

1) The Wii was popular
2) Microsoft was WAY richer than them
3) The financial crisis.



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Pyramid Head on 24 April 2009
theprof00 said:
gebx said:
JerzeeBalla said:
Pyramid Head said:
when i can download movies in hd why do i need a blu ray player again?

blu ray = laserdisc

cool but not necessary

 

Cause the average person doesnt know how to download HD movies, or any movie for that matter. Or they dont care to. By your logic a lot of things arent necessary. Shoot, video games arent really necessary but we all buy them.

 

The people who don't know how to download movies are the same people who could care less about Blu Ray's....

that's not entirely true. Someone could own a vcr and not know how to record.

 

vcrs cost 10 to 25 dollars max tho

he made a good point on the people who want blu ray.  theyre the techies

 



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theprof00 on 24 April 2009
Pyramid Head said:
theprof00 said:
gebx said:
JerzeeBalla said:
Pyramid Head said:
when i can download movies in hd why do i need a blu ray player again?

blu ray = laserdisc

cool but not necessary

 

Cause the average person doesnt know how to download HD movies, or any movie for that matter. Or they dont care to. By your logic a lot of things arent necessary. Shoot, video games arent really necessary but we all buy them.

 

The people who don't know how to download movies are the same people who could care less about Blu Ray's....

that's not entirely true. Someone could own a vcr and not know how to record.

 

vcrs cost 10 to 25 dollars max tho

he made a good point on the people who want blu ray.  theyre the techies

 

no. I'm just going to start saying "no" when people don't get it.

 



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Pyramid Head on 24 April 2009
Kantor said:
Sony didn't want to be first, to begin with.

They wanted to get a slow start, get a small userbase, and then cut costs and reduce the price. There are a few things, however, that they did not foresee:

1) The Wii was popular
2) Microsoft was WAY richer than them
3) The financial crisis.

 

oh yeh they definetly wanted a slow start . . .

heads rolled over it, its definetly what they wanted

 



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theprof00 on 24 April 2009
Pyramid Head said:
Kantor said:
Sony didn't want to be first, to begin with.

They wanted to get a slow start, get a small userbase, and then cut costs and reduce the price. There are a few things, however, that they did not foresee:

1) The Wii was popular
2) Microsoft was WAY richer than them
3) The financial crisis.

 

oh yeh they definetly wanted a slow start . . .

heads rolled over it, its definetly what they wanted

 

Who knows, maybe heads rolled because they were expecting a slower start and then that first bill for cost came in and they were like "wtf? Why aren't we selling less? the console is ***** 600$!"

jk

 



S.T.A.G.E. on 24 April 2009
neerdowell said:

Now, for the record, the ps3 is my console of choice this generation so this post has nothing to do with my personal preference, but moreso something I'm wondering.

When the ps3 was first manufactured at $850 and sold for $600, at a loss of $250 Sony must have known they would suffer a huge loss if they were to sell great numbers. Hence, if they would have came in first they wouldn't have been able to take the initial loss, which leads me to conclude that Sony's intention was never to be first afterall.

I've been skeptical as to the matter of the ps3 being a trojan horse for blu-ray in the past, but this makes me reconsider. Afterall, should blu-ray succeed, the movie industry is a much larger industry than gaming and just might prove to be the better prospect. Let me know what you guys think.

 

 

Of course the the PS3 was used as a "Trojan Horse" for Blu Ray. I've been saying this the whole time. Sony thought they would at least be in second. Microsoft really surprised them. Sony thought they could screw over the market and get into second place, but the people didn't listen.



Pyramid Head on 24 April 2009
theprof00 said:
Pyramid Head said:
Kantor said:
Sony didn't want to be first, to begin with.

They wanted to get a slow start, get a small userbase, and then cut costs and reduce the price. There are a few things, however, that they did not foresee:

1) The Wii was popular
2) Microsoft was WAY richer than them
3) The financial crisis.

 

oh yeh they definetly wanted a slow start . . .

heads rolled over it, its definetly what they wanted

 

Who knows, maybe heads rolled because they were expecting a slower start and then that first bill for cost came in and they were like "wtf? Why aren't we selling less? the console is ***** 600$!"

jk

 

i can picture the board meeting a few months in:

exec "the bundle is doing well actually, people love back compatibility!'

boss "fuck you.  number 1, youre fired.  number 2, who here can get rid of back compatibility . . . wait my phones ringing"

client "can i double my ps3 order?"

boss "fuck you!"

 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 24 April 2009
yo_john117 said:
They learned their lesson this gen.
And will most likely know better next gen.

 

 

Sony didn't learn anything. Sony walked into this gen knewing exactly what they were going to do and that they wouldn't be in first. However, they didn't know the Wii would sell as well as it was and that Microsoft had it out for them as bad as they did.