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Forums - Sales Discussion - Year End Prediction Thread (Japan - because imitation is the sincerest form of flattery)

Hardware sales in Japan in 2007 DS 10 million (hello, DQIX) Wii 5 million (passing GC Lifetime userbase in Sept-Oct, N64 lifetime userbase in December) PSP 3.5 million (best year so far in Japan) PS3 1.75 million (assuming large spikes in Nov-Dec, and during Golden Week) PS2 1.0 million (death...) 360 150,000 (in a coma) Top 10 Software 1) Dragon Quest IX (DS) 4,000,000 2) Pokemon (DS) 3,500,000 3) Big Brain Academy (Wii) 2,000,000 4) Wii Sports (Wii) 1,700,000 5) Super Smash Brothers Brawl (Wii) 1,600,000 6) Big Brain Training 2 (DS) 1,450,000 7) Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (PSP) 1,300,000 8) Wii Play (Wii) 1,250,000 9) New Super Mario Brothers (DS) 1,000,000 10) Super Paper Mario* (Wii) 850,000 * This game could sell over a million, I see it as having sales of like 500k, then 125k, then 30k, then a very steady 5k-7k for like the rest of the year into 08', perhaps crawling over 1 million a year or so after release **I have DQ: Swords, Galaxy, MGS4, Heavenly Sword and a few others doing over a million eventually, but not in 2007



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NDS - 8,950,000 Wii - 5,500,000 PSP - 2,900,000 PS3 - 2,150,000 PS2 - 1,500,000 X360 - 365,000 (far above what you had. It's easily tracking to get between 340-375k) Software: Wii Sports - 3,250,000 Dragon Quest IX - 3,150,000 Wii Play - 2,150,000 SSBB - 2,150,000 Final Fantasy XII: RW - 1,650,000 Big Brain Academy - 1,450,000 Dragon Quest: Swords - 1,300,000 Monster Hunter Portable - 1,250,000 Super Paper Mario - 1,050,000 NSMB - 1,025,000



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No Pokemon DS? It comes out soon in Japan..pre-orders..are high i'm told



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TheSource said: Hardware sales in Japan in 2007 DS 10 million (hello, DQIX) Wii 5 million (passing GC Lifetime userbase in Sept-Oct, N64 lifetime userbase in December) PSP 3.5 million (best year so far in Japan) PS3 1.75 million (assuming large spikes in Nov-Dec, and during Golden Week) PS2 1.0 million (death...) 360 150,000 (in a coma) Top 10 Software 1) Dragon Quest IX (DS) 4,000,000 2) Pokemon (DS) 3,500,000 3) Big Brain Academy (Wii) 2,000,000 4) Wii Sports (Wii) 1,700,000 5) Super Smash Brothers Brawl (Wii) 1,600,000 6) Big Brain Training 2 (DS) 1,450,000 7) Monster Hunter Freedom 2 (PSP) 1,300,000 8) Wii Play (Wii) 1,250,000 9) New Super Mario Brothers (DS) 1,000,000 10) Super Paper Mario* (Wii) 850,000 * This game could sell over a million, I see it as having sales of like 500k, then 125k, then 30k, then a very steady 5k-7k for like the rest of the year into 08', perhaps crawling over 1 million a year or so after release **I have DQ: Swords, Galaxy, MGS4, Heavenly Sword and a few others doing over a million eventually, but not in 2007
lol............MGS 4 and HEAVENLY SWORD wont reach a million in 2007..........hahha ??? Wii 5 million vs 1.75 million for ps3......................what a dreamer????? wake up wake up. FF13 and MGS4 would sell at least 2 million in JAPAN...........not to mention ROW. did you see what happened last week. ps3 came agonizingly close to Wii in terms of sales. At e3 more JAPAN oriented ps3 games would be announced. and dont Forget GUNDAM MUSOU is still sold out all over in JAPAN. KOEI took just four months to make GM.....................so you wd be having more GUNDAMS this year.Plus the introduction of PLAYSTATION EDGE + new toold have made development alot easier and faster. MORE GUNDAMS this year.......fingers crossed!! by the end of 2007 ps3 regains the no1 spot in JAPAN...........followed by DS and PSP/Wii People want photorealism rather than cartoons. Why do you think BIG LITTLE PLANET is making shockwaves???? it is because of the graphics solely. same goes to CRYSIS. tht is why ZELDA flopped in JAPAN and RESISTANCE became a super hit . Blue Dragon also flopped due to similiar reasons. Why do you think people are not that excited with HALO 3...............cause CRYSIS and KILLZONE 2/GEARS have taken games to new level... people want gameplay as well as graphics. This is why MOTORSTORM has created a buzz. By the end of 2007 ps3 becomes the DOMINATOR all around the world.



mrstickball said: NDS - 8,950,000 Wii - 5,500,000 PSP - 2,900,000 PS3 - 2,150,000 PS2 - 1,500,000 X360 - 365,000 (far above what you had. It's easily tracking to get between 340-375k) Software: Wii Sports - 3,250,000 Dragon Quest IX - 3,150,000 Wii Play - 2,150,000 SSBB - 2,150,000 Final Fantasy XII: RW - 1,650,000 Big Brain Academy - 1,450,000 Dragon Quest: Swords - 1,300,000 Monster Hunter Portable - 1,250,000 Super Paper Mario - 1,050,000 NSMB - 1,025,000
x360 sales would keep plummetting with time.....last week the sales dropped to 3500. LOST ODYSSEY wont do anything .....cause when it comes out MGS4 and DQ would be out already. I seriously doubt LO would be even released in JAPAN. i put x360 at 200k max...........and ps3 at 3--4 m.



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Lol Washimul, PS3 on top in 2007...?!, with what AAA games?! Call me crazy but i dont see MGS4 and FF13 coming out in 2007. But: No more heroes (wii) Metroid 3 (wii) Mario Galaxy (wii) DQ 9 (ds) FF 12 RW (ds) Paper mario (wii) SSB: Brawl (wii) DQ: Masked queen ..... (wii) Kojima project... (maybe 2008) 'Project O' (2008) They are all set to release this year in Japan except for the last one. And there are many more. Now call games for PS3 that are AAA and will release on PS3 this year!



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Washimul Zelda outsold Resistance 4:1 in Japan. I'm also not convinced Metal Gear Solid 4 will reach Japan with enough time left in the year to sell over a million. I can see it just making the end of 2007 in Japan, perhaps the last week of November - but don't be surprised if it is delayed. Frankly, I think they are going to announce a 360 version of it as well. Also, most people have FF13 in 2008. Heavenly Sword looks interesting, but it comes out soon. So it would have to sell near 1:1 with PS3 to sell a million units this year. I think you'll see it sell to roughly 1/3 PS3 owners this year..around 550,000. To me Motorstorm for PS3 in Japan is the equivalent of Wave Race 64. It might sell because the owners are starving for software, but it isn't something most Japanese want. I think a system needs 6 good games (for the market) in it's first 6 months to sell well in Japan. PS3 has two gundams, VF5...and thats about it until April. Wii has Wii Sports, Wii Play, Zelda, Wario Ware, Paper Mario, One Piece, Pokemon, and Fire Emblem in terms of appealing Japanese games to sell 100,000+ between launch and April. Also, for PS3 to be at say..3 million units for MGS4 to sell 2 million units (because it will not sell 1 to 1 with the hardware) by the end of this year...it would have to sell...about 56,000/ week. Higher than it has sold at any point in after January 7, 2007. Lastly, there is no way in hell PS3 outsells the DS this year. DS has a new set of Pokemon games, more non-games coming, the old non-games still selling well (Brain Training, English Training, etc), New Super Mario Brothers, Animal Crossing DS, and Mario Kart DS still selling well, and DQIX, the biggest series in Japan. From Nov 19-March 5, PS3 is under 800,000 units in Japan. 300,000 of those sales came in one month - December. Another 180,000 by Dec 1 (within three weeks of launch). 490,000 in 7 launch-holiday weeks. 290,000 in 9 post 2006 weeks. Of which the first saw 70,000. 32,000 is the average with Jan 1-7. 26,000 not including that one week. Even the 26,000 is high because of the recent Gundam and VF5. On most weeks, when big games do not come out, sales are between 18,000 and 22,000 for PS3. Wii consistently sells over 50,000 according to all tracking firms. Until this week it was selling 65,000 to 80,000 per week. I suspect shipments are being diverted, or with held to prepare for Super Paper Mario in April. I think they want to save 10,000 units a week for 6 weeks, then add the 80,000 shipment, to have 140,000 ready units, by which point the increased manufacturing will be in effect for the following weeks.



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washimul said: lol............MGS 4 and HEAVENLY SWORD wont reach a million in 2007..........hahha ??? Wii 5 million vs 1.75 million for ps3......................what a dreamer????? wake up wake up. FF13 and MGS4 would sell at least 2 million in JAPAN...........not to mention ROW. did you see what happened last week. ps3 came agonizingly close to Wii in terms of sales. At e3 more JAPAN oriented ps3 games would be announced. and dont Forget GUNDAM MUSOU is still sold out all over in JAPAN. KOEI took just four months to make GM.....................so you wd be having more GUNDAMS this year.Plus the introduction of PLAYSTATION EDGE + new toold have made development alot easier and faster. MORE GUNDAMS this year.......fingers crossed!! by the end of 2007 ps3 regains the no1 spot in JAPAN...........followed by DS and PSP/Wii People want photorealism rather than cartoons. Why do you think BIG LITTLE PLANET is making shockwaves???? it is because of the graphics solely. same goes to CRYSIS. tht is why ZELDA flopped in JAPAN and RESISTANCE became a super hit . Blue Dragon also flopped due to similiar reasons. Why do you think people are not that excited with HALO 3...............cause CRYSIS and KILLZONE 2/GEARS have taken games to new level... people want gameplay as well as graphics. This is why MOTORSTORM has created a buzz. By the end of 2007 ps3 becomes the DOMINATOR all around the world.
The PS3 came close to the Wii ONCE in the 16 weeks it's been competing with the Wii. The Wii is ahead 1m units in just 3 months. FF13 won't be released this year, thus why we predict so low #s in Japan for the PS3. Japaneese people don't like the shooters that PS3 is putting out, therefore the low numbers. Your LoZ:TP vs. Resistance is laughable. Resistance has sold just over 100k, Zelda has sold over 400k in Japan. In the US, Zelda is almost at 2m, and Resistance isn't even at 750k yet! People DO want gameplay and graphics, thats why they are playing Gears of War over Resistance, Excite Truck over Motorstorm, and so on - PS3 doesn't have all the gameplay some people want. BD didn't flop in Japan, it's sold over 130k units on a machine with only 350k systems. Thats better than any and every other PS3 game made except for Gundam...And that's on a system that's sold half the units of hardware.
x360 sales would keep plummetting with time.....last week the sales dropped to 3500. LOST ODYSSEY wont do anything .....cause when it comes out MGS4 and DQ would be out already. I seriously doubt LO would be even released in JAPAN. i put x360 at 200k max...........and ps3 at 3--4 m.
The 360 sold 200k last year, and is 150% above it this year (thus far) - which equals out to 500k this year. I am predicting less than that due to various circumstances. LO will make a big impact, regardless of it's counter-programming. Infact, I doubt FF XIII will be out in Japan by this Christmas, if anything LO will help a starved JRPG market. It's doubtful PS3 will sell 3-4m since it doesn't have a ton of J-games inline for it. Killzone, Heavenly Sword and Lair might be great hits worldwide, but I don't see Japan really helping them out. Most of the important J-games for PS3 won't effect Sony until 2008. For now, its 2007 and Japan is lost to Sony this year.



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PS3 Total (november 06-31dec07) Japan 2,2M sold 3m Shiped 360 Total november05-31dec07) Japan 600K Sold 1,5m Shiped Wii Total (november06-31dec07) Japan 4,0 Sold 5m Shiped



Stickball, I have an excell graph depicting how I expect all three consoles to sell from Nov 06' to Dec 07'. (Data for Nov-Dec is real, Jan real for Japan/NA). Can you tell me how to upload it? It is based on dated (Feb 26) information, but it would still be a good reference point. Also, I can see the 360 selling 250,000 in Japan if A.S.H and Oddysey are recieved well. (20,000 for 3 months, 15,000 for 7 months, 35,000 Nov, 50,000 Dec)



People are difficult to govern because they have too much knowledge.

When there are more laws, there are more criminals.

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